Batman animated series

[GoldStarz]

Well the next Batman series following the one coming out this fall needs be different. I wouldn't mind one that focuses on the extended family ie all 4 Robins, the BOP, Catwoman, various other vigilantes in Gotham the Order and Court of Owls etc..

There are 5 Robins... And what about the Batgirls, I'd love seeing Black Bat/Batgirl, Batgirl/Spoiler, and Oracle in the same TV show.

[KurtW95]

There are 5 Robins... And what about the Batgirls, I'd love seeing Black Bat/Batgirl, Batgirl/Spoiler, and Oracle in the same TV show.

Stephanie Brown doesn't count.

[Personamanx]

That's because she's never been Oracle in an animated show for more than an episode. And that episode was one of the best in the series.

I also like Commissioner Babs from Batman Beyond more than DCAU!Babsbat.

It really was the best episode. But yeah, Bab as as Batgirl has only ever really worked well in the cartoons. Have never read an appearance of her as Batgirl that contributed positively to a comic. Oracle, I can name many.

She was right on.

[Zak213]

I really hope the next Batman cartoon that isn't an elseworld (not that I have a problem with that) is a little bit later in the Batman mythos. Not that I don't like the early era stuff but we've had so much of it in the other cartoons and it could really benefit from something that made it different.

I know there was a cartoon that was supposed to be loosely based on No Man's Land which could have been awesome, and also I'd argue a loose adaptation of the Reborn era could also be interesting.

No Man's Land has the benefit of a distinct problem and visual and a vaguely post-apocalyptic feel to it, helping it stand out compared the other Batman cartoons. (Though this darkness is part of why that show was passed on so...) It could easily have running subplots and a time deadline leading to events at a season finale as well as more episodic adventures that they run into in that landscape. It's the type of situation that can naturally create a lot of stories even without doing an actual adaptation of events in the comic. It would also allow for a larger cast as the crisis forces Batman to work with his allies to help diffuse things. I'll be honest, I'm not even the biggest fan of No Man's Land, but it could make such a great backdrop for a cartoon.

As for Reborn, I'd say that era benefits from not having Bruce around forcing his supporting cast to take up the slack and give them an opportunity to shine, facing the chaos coming from the death of Batman as well as a more personal loss. The Morrison stuff doesn't completely lend itself to cartoons in its fullest, and let's pass on most of BFTC, however I think there's some interesting things to work with there with the Dick and Damian relationship, Dick coming into Batman, Tim and Cassandra's journeys, Steph's growth into Batgirl, maybe subplots with Renee and Kate or Michael Land and it just could a good jump on point. Yeah, it would require some major changes (and what cartoon has been a direct adaptation?) but I think that a Dick!Bats show could be neat.

Also, it would be nice to see some of the other Batladies besides Barbara in animation for more than a second/ambigious backshot. Also, Renee Montoya as the Question. Or even a police officer. I'm not picky.

both seem pretty cool, i'd watch it.

On topic-

I think a cartoon has more advantages by doing a looser adaptation of marvel/dc because it's easier to set to the television pacing and you dont have to worry about catching up to fast with the comic like your average anime.

Plus its more freedom and to be fair, marvel/dc are rather fluid when it comes to contuinty so its not as important as too adapt it strongly as long as the stories and take is good.

[mathew101281]

No. She's so much better as Batgirl.

Seriously debateable. We've never really got to see Oracle in any meaningful way in an animated series. And as far as the comics go I find that most of my favorite Babs stories come from her time as Oracle. Batgirl Year one being the one true acception to the rule. Also my biggest problem with Babs as Batgirl is that she doesn't really do anything that other characters in the Batfamily don't do better. At least with Oracle she had a role that was unique to her.

[net06]

Seriously debateable. We've never really got to see Oracle in any meaningful way in an animated series. And as far as the comics go I find that most of my favorite Babs stories come from her time as Oracle. Batgirl Year one being the one true acception to the rule. Also my biggest problem with Babs as Batgirl is that she doesn't really do anything that other characters in the Batfamily don't do better. At least with Oracle she had a role that was unique to her.

THAT is Seriously debatable. I'm pretty sure she could whip Damien, Tim, and Stephanie's ass at least, probably equal with Nightwing (I don't know any thing about Casandra). Besides, there isn't any thing any of them can do as well as Bruce, so if you use that logic why have any one else at all?

[batGRRRl4ever]

How? Every Batgirl has something that makes them special. Babs' special something is her brain. Oracle helps more people with her brain than Batgirl does, so logically, Steph and Cass put their skills to better use as Batgirl than Babs does.

That's a description of the last iteration of Barbara Gordon, but it's not the take and direction the current Batgirl writer is taking her in as Batgirl. Now she is still smart but what is being emphasized is her inspirational spirit and how it affects the denizens of Gotham, both good and bad. That now is Barbara's "something extra special" being brought to the table as Batgirl. Remember, new universe and a new take on the character.

[Predator jp]

this thread is about imaginary Batman animated series.
'new universe' or 'new take' doesn't really matter.

[batGRRRl4ever]

this thread is about imaginary Batman animated series.
'new universe' or 'new take' doesn't really matter.

I would imagine that DC would want to tie in existing and current character properties from comics into any animated media etc. for better profitable synergy.

[Predator jp]

OP said ’what if they made a cartoon that follows comic canon closely and introduces new fans to it’.
this thread is not about 'Batman animated series that tie in existing and current character properties from comics for better profitable synergy'.

[Seattle Freeze]

I agree. Cartoons that directly relate to current comic series and characters could boost sales while a seperate continuity could confuse new fans. It would be best to create new cartonns in a way that helps them sell their products.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

THAT is Seriously debatable. I'm pretty sure she could whip Damien, Tim, and Stephanie's ass at least, probably equal with Nightwing (I don't know any thing about Casandra). Besides, there isn't any thing any of them can do as well as Bruce, so if you use that logic why have any one else at all?

Equal with Nightwing my butt.

[Free-Man]

I would imagine that DC would want to tie in existing and current character properties from comics into any animated media etc. for better profitable synergy.

No, not really. Or else the new Batman show would have Barbara (or depending on how far back it was in pre-production, Steph) or Damian and not a teen version of Katana as Bruce's sidekick, who is an adult in the New 52. Or conversely, we'd have gotten a teen Katana in the New 52 with closer ties to the Batman family. And that's not even touching on all the liberties taken with Young Justice or Green Lantern.

Notice that even over at Marvel, the changes being made for the sake of "synergy" with the current animated and film projects are done in the comics, not the adaptations.

[MarkRodriguez12]

I just wanna see Damian in animated form... whether a cartoon or animated movie...

[GoldStarz]

Stephanie Brown doesn't count.

That's like saying Babs doesn't count as Batgirl because I like her least, or Gwen Stacy doesn't count as Peter Parker's love interest because she died as a result and he moved on and married MJ.

That's a description of the last iteration of Barbara Gordon, but it's not the take and direction the current Batgirl writer is taking her in as Batgirl. Now she is still smart but what is being emphasized is her inspirational spirit and how it affects the denizens of Gotham, both good and bad. That now is Barbara's "something extra special" being brought to the table as Batgirl. Remember, new universe and a new take on the character.

Except Stephanie's special skill was her unbreakable spirit and unwavering optimism, and Steph and Cass aren't brains, so that doesn't work out because then the brains-brawns-spirit trio of the main female of the Batfam is broken because we have 2 spirits and no brains.