Page 176 of 690 FirstFirst ... 76126166172173174175176177178179180186226276676 ... LastLast
Results 2,626 to 2,640 of 10345
  1. #2626
    Elder Member Charles RB's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    35,822

    Default

    Sixty Rio policemen have been arrested on grounds of being in bed with the drug gangs. (Eleven members of the gang Red Command were nabbed too) Several bent coppers are on the run and a police commander has been fired (he's not accused but, y'know, he clearly sucks).

    Which is terrible but a lot less terrible than not stomping on bent coppers. With massive sports events in 2014 and 2016 and a president with a harder line on corruption (Rousseff has overseen some high-profile arrests), it's good to see Brazil getting its arse in gear about this.
    "We must fight on!"
    "We'll die. We fight and we die, that's how it goes."
    "Then we die gloriously!"
    "There's an important word there, and it's not gloriously."
    - Only You Can Save Mankind

  2. #2627
    Observer Vibranium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    19,266

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy View Post
    Its union busting right to work isn't proven to do anything to increase employment. Its merely the republicans using there power because they can.
    here in the northeast, right to work or at will is pretty standard here

    while I do not agree with the reasoning, I do think that a worker should not have to be forced to join a union to work in certain places
    Support your local roller derby league

  3. #2628
    Senior Member bringthenoise's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    Posts
    3,183

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dupont2005 View Post
    Yeah they need more Walmarts.
    Which is ironic, because jobs there don't pay the rent either - but at least you qualify for food stamps!

  4. #2629
    Senior Member bringthenoise's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    Posts
    3,183

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vibranium View Post
    here in the northeast, right to work or at will is pretty standard here

    while I do not agree with the reasoning, I do think that a worker should not have to be forced to join a union to work in certain places
    Right to work and at-will are two different concepts, and according to Wikipedia at least, neither is common in the Northeast.

    ETA: In fact, there are no Right-To-Work states in the North-East. Indiana and Virginia are as close as you get.

  5. #2630
    Pickled by life o1pickleboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    8,246

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vibranium View Post
    here in the northeast, right to work or at will is pretty standard here

    while I do not agree with the reasoning, I do think that a worker should not have to be forced to join a union to work in certain places

    Do you agree with a union being force to represent someone that doesn't pay for their services? That is what right to work does creates the free rider system. It would be different if the union and non union employees were separate and non union employees got what they negotiated for themselves, but it isn't, they get what we can. They get the right to free representation and all benefits of the union contract without paying there fair share.


    Free rider problem
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This article is about an economic and political phenomenon. For literal free rides, see Freighthopping or Stowaway.

    This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (November 2012)
    In economics, collective bargaining, psychology and political science, the free rider problem is a situation in which individuals or organizations consume more than their fair share of a resource, or shoulder less than a fair share of the costs of its production. Free riding is usually considered to be an economic problem only when it leads to the non-production or under-production of a public good (and thus to Pareto inefficiency), or when it leads to the excessive use of a common property resource.
    In the context of labor unions, a free rider is an employee who pays no union dues or agency shop fees, but nonetheless receives the same benefits of union representation as dues-payers. Under United States law, unions owe a duty of fair representation to all workers that they represent, regardless of whether they pay dues. Some jurists[who?] have questioned the fairness, if not the legality, of this practice.

    Right to work is just an attack on the union revenue, which is the funds we use for arbitration, education and training.
    Last edited by o1pickleboy; 12-06-2012 at 04:23 PM.
    I'm not liberal, liberals have beliefs. I'm a democrat, the only belief I have is that republicans are wrong.

    Let's free the market, so it can enslave us all

    Myspace

  6. #2631
    Elder Member mikekerrIII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Delaware
    Posts
    23,548

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by o1pickleboy View Post
    Its union busting right to work isn't proven to do anything to increase employment. Its merely the republicans using there power because they can.
    It make sthe place more attractive to manufacturer, notice that most of the forgien Car makers for example and manly of the other new factories are being built in right to work states like Tennesee
    Pain shared is divided, joy shared is multiplied

  7. #2632
    Elder Member dupersuper's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    30,899

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mikekerrIII View Post
    Political purity doesn't pay the rent
    Neither do a rising # of non-union jobs...
    Pull List; seems to be too long to fit in my sig...

  8. #2633

    Default

    So as most people here probably know, there's a lot of political protests going on in Egypt. Several people have been killed and several branches of the ruling Freedom and Justice Party have been attacked or even burnt down.

    The army really seems to be quite enjoying this - they were attacked for trying to keep power and for abusing demonstrators so now they're just standing back and only stepping in when thigns look like they're gettign severely out of hand. They stopped protesters actually storming the Presidential Palace but didn't stop them throwing Molotovs at it.
    Visit the Ace Comics & Games Digital shopfront:
    http://www.acecomics.comicretailer.com

  9. #2634

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mikekerrIII View Post
    It is either do something to attract employers or starve, And they don't want to starve. Political purity doesn't pay the rent
    Yeah things are terrible here what with our high minimum wages and strogn unions - unemployment is over 5%!.

    Good thing you guys don't have those problems.
    Visit the Ace Comics & Games Digital shopfront:
    http://www.acecomics.comicretailer.com

  10. #2635
    Nyah! Paradox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Kalamazoo MI/Millennium City MI
    Posts
    33,367

    Default

    mikekerrIII drinks the Kool-Aid:

    It make sthe place more attractive to manufacturer, notice that most of the forgien Car makers for example and manly of the other new factories are being built in right to work states like Tennesee
    It does nothing of the kind, here. Manufacturing flees the Industrial North now for warmer climes with less overhead. Manufacturing as we knew it is NEVER coming back to Michigan, it's just not practical. We're just wasting time, money and legislation to try and bring it back and it simply doesn't happen. A new direction has to be found, because looking back wistfully is getting us nowhere.

    And, yes, pickle is right. This has nothing at all to do with gaining jobs and everything to do with Michigan's legislature's current fascist bent.
    'Dox out.

    "But I think the difference is, when Democrats go crazy, they get shown the door. When Republicans go crazy they get appointed to the Science committee. " - Shawn Hopkins

    "Can it, you nit!" - Violet Beauregard

    "And Paradox is never correct. About anything."- Kid Omega


    Champions: The Conclave
    Decorum & Friends (A City of Heroes archive)

  11. #2636
    Nyah! Paradox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Kalamazoo MI/Millennium City MI
    Posts
    33,367

    Default

    mikekerrIII does nothing but show the openness of the con:

    It is either do something to attract employers or starve, And they don't want to starve. Political purity doesn't pay the rent
    "See, if we pull the jobs out and wait a bit, the ones that stick around will be so hungry we'll be able to do anything we want to them for the price of a loaf of bread!!! MWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

    'Dox out.

    "But I think the difference is, when Democrats go crazy, they get shown the door. When Republicans go crazy they get appointed to the Science committee. " - Shawn Hopkins

    "Can it, you nit!" - Violet Beauregard

    "And Paradox is never correct. About anything."- Kid Omega


    Champions: The Conclave
    Decorum & Friends (A City of Heroes archive)

  12. #2637
    for the lulz 7thangel's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    8,633

    Default

    well, look on the bright side, they're looking to put the city of Detroit under a PA72 Emergency Manager

    oh, wait...

  13. #2638
    Elder Member mikekerrIII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Delaware
    Posts
    23,548

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dupersuper View Post
    Neither do a rising # of non-union jobs...
    They sure as hell are paying a lot of rent in places like Tennesse
    Pain shared is divided, joy shared is multiplied

  14. #2639
    Elder Member mikekerrIII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Delaware
    Posts
    23,548

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Iangould View Post
    Yeah things are terrible here what with our high minimum wages and strogn unions - unemployment is over 5%!.

    Good thing you guys don't have those problems.
    That works if you if ignore the fact that our states are in competition with each other for employers. Do you think that labor costs are not a major decision in deciding where to build a factory? If everyone had the same rules it would be different
    Pain shared is divided, joy shared is multiplied

  15. #2640
    They call me Mr. Pip! the4thpip's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    31,131

    Default

    One of the two richest Germans passed away at the rather young age of 58. Berthold Albrecht was one of the two brothers co-owning the Aldi and Trader Joe's cains of discount supermarkets. His fortune was estimated to be at 14 billion € (over 18,000,000,000 $US).
    My blog.

    We struggled against apartheid in South Africa, supported by people the world over, because black people were being blamed and made to suffer for something we could do nothing about; our very skins. It is the same with sexual orientation. It is a given.
    - Desmond Tutu

    Getting married? Check http://www.fandgweddings.com/

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •