Is there too much pressure for innovation on Batman?

[LetsGetNerdy]

I got a kind of feeling that the Batman creator's are somehow pushing too hard to serve the impression that Batman is the state of the art in comic's world story telling. I feel too much pushing hard for innovative twists and suprises in the storys and character development.

Batman dies. Batman is back. Batman is rebooted. Every sidekick was Batman once for a while (Catwoman next?), Batman creates an international franchise. Batman meets Thomas Wayne. Batman has a wired and cocky killer-son. Ancient rulers of the city attacking everything around them with an army of super assasins (for what? I did't get the motivation and the goals of the court of owl so far, to be honest), Batman gets darker and darker, the villains must become more innovative and crazier each issue.

Honestly, I think it's too much. Too much work on the legacy. Too much bet's on "Hey, we are so innovative. Because we do Batman!" Where are these straight "beat the hell out of bad boys" crime fighter storys? The good solid old vilians who are just bad and act with simple motives like greed or the simple fun to be bad?

I think with the boost in popularity during the last decade the creators feel the pressure of handling a cultural icon. They avoid very hard to be simple, maybe cheasy. But its an comic. It should be fun. Batman was fun for decades - even if he hunts crime and bad boys in a grim and dark way. Now he is complicated.

I realized it by reading a lot of Spider-Man lately. Spider-Man is very well written, entertaining and intelligent but he is delivering straight what makes him famous for decades: Fun, entertainment, popcorn story telling. Its an rich and colorful cosmos but it's not that complicated. No trying too hard for innovation or for reinventing the legacy every few issues. Spider-Man just delivers solid comic fun and is not trying to hard to be an icon that is able to meet higher standard in literature and modern art. That is something that has Batman lost on his way.

My favorit issue of Batman in the New52 is Dark Knight so far. I know that many people hate this issue but for myself I sense a special quality in this series: It's just Batman. It's straight. It's fun. It's not trying too hard. It delivers vilians, action and beat outs. It has some good old fun Batman spirit that I am missing in the main series.

I think the creators should take a closer look to the spirit of the fun and entertaining popcorn Batman of the 70s/80s and dont try to hard to make Batman the most advanced iconic comic book out there. I feel there is too much pressure on this character to be the front runner of innovation and legacy building in the comic industry and therefore this pressure creates a missing energy to be just simply entertaining.

[RoughNTumble]

I feel like we've had all the character development we need for a good ten years after morrison's run.

I just want the writers to play with the toys in the sandbox right now, and deliver good, solid, entertaining stories without trying to 'shake it all up nothing will ever be the same' every story arc.

[Mr. Holmes]

I've noticed the same thing, and I think it's because Batman has had consistently successful publication since the 80s at least, and probably before that. It's gotten to the point that you either do something by the numbers or you do something new.

[jgiannantoni05]

I think the standards are pretty low from DC's end. I can be fine with simple "uninnovative" stories. I like when Dini and Dixon and Alan Grant and Moench did those well.

[Dr. Hurt]

2 deep 4 u OP?



Because what you're asking is mindless cookiecutter Batman stories to pass your time. Batman stories can be innovative and fun when written well. Gif related.

[The Man From Room X]

Agree with Dr. Hurt.
Hell there's not even the least bit pressure on innovation for Batman right now except for the Morrison stuff. That goes for just about every DC property as well.

[Lancerman]

Batman's one of those characters where the typical status quo is generally well received so you could kind of get away with doing by the numbers stuff for a long stretch before you'd have to change it up. That said I feel like as a character Batman is so compelling that good writers will feel the drive to stretch it out and innovate as much as they can.

[Roldan]

I got a kind of feeling that the Batman creator's are somehow pushing too hard to serve the impression that Batman is the state of the art in comic's world story telling. I feel too much pushing hard for innovative twists and suprises in the storys and character development.

Batman dies. Batman is back. Batman is rebooted. Every sidekick was Batman once for a while (Catwoman next?), Batman creates an international franchise. Batman meets Thomas Wayne. Batman has a wired and cocky killer-son. Ancient rulers of the city attacking everything around them with an army of super assasins (for what? I did't get the motivation and the goals of the court of owl so far, to be honest), Batman gets darker and darker, the villains must become more innovative and crazier each issue.

Honestly, I think it's too much. Too much work on the legacy. Too much bet's on "Hey, we are so innovative. Because we do Batman!" Where are these straight "beat the hell out of bad boys" crime fighter storys? The good solid old vilians who are just bad and act with simple motives like greed or the simple fun to be bad?

I think with the boost in popularity during the last decade the creators feel the pressure of handling a cultural icon. They avoid very hard to be simple, maybe cheasy. But its an comic. It should be fun. Batman was fun for decades - even if he hunts crime and bad boys in a grim and dark way. Now he is complicated.

I realized it by reading a lot of Spider-Man lately. Spider-Man is very well written, entertaining and intelligent but he is delivering straight what makes him famous for decades: Fun, entertainment, popcorn story telling. Its an rich and colorful cosmos but it's not that complicated. No trying too hard for innovation or for reinventing the legacy every few issues. Spider-Man just delivers solid comic fun and is not trying to hard to be an icon that is able to meet higher standard in literature and modern art. That is something that has Batman lost on his way.

My favorit issue of Batman in the New52 is Dark Knight so far. I know that many people hate this issue but for myself I sense a special quality in this series: It's just Batman. It's straight. It's fun. It's not trying too hard. It delivers vilians, action and beat outs. It has some good old fun Batman spirit that I am missing in the main series.

I think the creators should take a closer look to the spirit of the fun and entertaining popcorn Batman of the 70s/80s and dont try to hard to make Batman the most advanced iconic comic book out there. I feel there is too much pressure on this character to be the front runner of innovation and legacy building in the comic industry and therefore this pressure creates a missing energy to be just simply entertaining.

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Also I'm gonna agree with Dr. Hurt plus let's not forget he's the bloody Dark Knight. Batman have always been super serious except in the Silver Age. But everything was cheesy in the Silver Age.