"The Dark Knight Rises" Opening Box Office Take Could Rival "The Avengers"

[the goddamn batman]

because they weren't where the story was set. it was a different story, and cities often have many differing sections of town. I bet it looks different in Rises, too.

[Simbob4000]

because they weren't where the story was set. it was a different story, and cities often have many differing sections of town. I bet it looks different in Rises, too.

Well, Gotham isn't a real city, they could have made up new comic book-ish looking places for The Dark Knight. The way The Dark Knight's Gotham is doesn't even feel like The Narrows and the monorail system could even be things in it. And the end with Two Face could have easily been set in The Narrows

[Karl O'Neill]

Yeah, Gotham being Chicago fits with what Nolan is doing with the movies.
Burton creating a advanced Adam West Batman Gotham is what he wanted to do with his movies.
And then Schumacher turned the dial to 11, broke it off, burned it and buried it.

Schu's Gotham had a nice futuristic look about it. Has to be said.

[the goddamn batman]

Well, Gotham isn't a real city, they could have made up new comic book-ish looking places for The Dark Knight. The way The Dark Knight's Gotham is doesn't even feel like The Narrows and the monorail system could even be things in it. And the end with Two Face could have easily been set in The Narrows

it wasn't supposed to be "comic book-ish."

you do, of course, realize that Chicago actually has elevated trains right? that's a city that doesn't look like it could have an elevated train or a... a slum? every big city has slums.

christ.

[Alex]

As a frequent visitor to chicago, who went to university with a couple guys who weren't from the best parts of the city (My roomate sophmore year lived in englewood for 15 years until they moved...i don't even know how to describe englewood, imagine the shittiest part of the shittiest city in america, and that's englewood) but your main bad parts of chicago(and this is generalizing, so no hopefully chicago people won't take offense) are the southside and parts of the westside, though i had buddies from there that would argue with that heavily, just because englewood is so horrible.
Anyway, my point, you don't really see that part of chicago in Dark Knight, they sort of created the bad parts of chicago from...i guess not bad parts of chicago is the best way to put it. It was still a somewhat stylized version of the city.
I guess because Batman running around shitty broken down duplexs isn't as nice to look at as shitty tall buildings.

[The Batman]

Shittier even than the worst parts of Detroit?

[Lord Bravery]

That is because Burton's Batman was filmed almost entirely on sets, not in a real city. Burton was going for a fantastical feel. Nolan was going for a realistic feel. The best way to get realism is to film on real streets. And since Gotham doesn't really exist, other similar cities need to stand in for it. If that means that occasional landmarks pop up, one hopes that they won't be so obvious as to shatter the illusion. You wouldn't want Gotham City to have the Statue of Liberty in the bay. Or the Arch on one of it's riverfronts. I think your familiarity with Chicago is getting in the way of your suspension of disbelief. Too bad.

Yea Burton filmed on sets, but his Gotham seemed much or alive than Nolan's. Ironic really.

The scene at the beginning of Batman 89, where the family who get mugged are walking through that square. You see cops walking the beat, hookers standing around, hot dog venders etc. It looks like a living, breathing city. It creates an atmosphere.

Nolan's Gotham in TDK had no atmosphere or sense that it was a real city... even though it was actually filmed in a real city.

[golgi]

This is what Geoff Boucher had to say about TDKR!



So far, that is 4 to 5 critics who think it's better than TDK. So far so good.

[golgi]

And another...



I also posted this on the Batman forums. May or may not be true

This is what is known from the person (From SHH) who was at the WB screening:

1) TDKR Is far superior to TDK

2) Bane has such a strong presence that makes you almost forget the Joker even existed

3) The Film did indeed get a Standing Ovation

4) Grown Men came out of the viewing crying...its an absolutely emotional ending

5) There's quite a bit of action compared to the previous films, but that it doesn't overshadow the immense heart and depth of the story

6) Full story is told with more-than-adequate depth, development and conclusion in the WB cut

7) He be shocked if WB marketed a Bane Mask replica towards children, considering the purpose of the mask in the film. (When he was told about the bane mask in the halloween costumes he replied) "Yeah, that's awful. I mean, it's always fun to be a baddie for Halloween, but Bane? That mask is literally part of what makes him a villain. It's like including the Joker's knives with his costumes. I would say it's a wrong move."

8) Compared to the avengers its apples and oranges. The source loved Avengers and he was blown away by TDKR. It's hard to compare, though - they're quite different . He said they're both rollercoaster rides, but TDKR is kind of like a really creaky, old coaster where you feel it could fall apart at any second (and that's a good thing...it's similar to TDK in that it builds and builds, and it's scary. The analogy works because you do end up at that safe place. But the ride itself is exciting and unpredictable.) where Avengers was more of a solid-but-exciting ride. They're nothing at all alike.

The movie is already projected to do about 190M. This means it will sell more tickets than Avengers.

[Alex]

Shittier even than the worst parts of Detroit?

I've only driven through detroit, and yeah, it looked shitty, but since i've never actually been there a lot, or stopped there...
East St Louis is pretty horrible too.

[Alex]

Another thing to point out, was that Burton's Batman was more about atmosphere, so the city had to look more stylized, and Nolan's batman focused more on the characters.

[Mr. Holmes]

And another...



I also posted this on the Batman forums. May or may not be true



The movie is already projected to do about 190M. This means it will sell more tickets than Avengers.

Hot freaking damn.

[Karl O'Neill]

Not to put a damper on things, but I remember Green Lantern having early positive twitter reviews!!!!

Reviews I got excited for!

[Darrell D.]

Not to put a damper on things, but I remember Green Lantern having early positive twitter reviews!!!!

Reviews I got excited for!

Who would have given GL early positive reviews? Were they blind, deaf and insane?

[Karl O'Neill]

Who would have given GL early positive reviews? Were they blind, deaf and insane?

One was actually from a known movie director. He tricked us