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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedlam66 View Post
    Marvel got back the rights to the FF.
    No they didn't. They got Blade and Punisher back, that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jediracer View Post
    Green Lantern is the first that comes to mind. John Carter is another. Iron Man is not really what I meant by "sci-fi" -- by "sci-fi" I'm talking about traveling in space, etc. And Thor comes off more as fantasy that "intergalactic space" stuff.
    Green Lantern failed because it was garbage and spent about 10 minutes in space after advertising it as an epic space adventure. John Carter failed because it had one of the worst marketing campaigns ever and Taylor Kitsch isn't exactly star material.

    GotG needs some big stars in the leads. Marvel can't just use young unknowns for this. With great visuals and some eye catching trailers, link it to the phenomenon that is Avengers, it could be successful. Not Avengers big, but Thor or even Iron Man big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jediracer View Post
    Green Lantern is the first that comes to mind. John Carter is another. Iron Man is not really what I meant by "sci-fi" -- by "sci-fi" I'm talking about traveling in space, etc. And Thor comes off more as fantasy that "intergalactic space" stuff.
    I forgot all about Green Lantern. John Carter isn't a comic book movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo Tomassi View Post
    I would much rather have seen the REAL GotG in a movie.
    The 2008 version is a collection of C-list Marvel characters that couldn't carry their own books separately, so they got lumped together in a Team title with a recognizable/nostalgic Title. Every one of them has a convoluted history and backstory, and to try and muscle ALL of it into one film is practically undoable. Either that, or they'll drastically truncate and change the backstory, making them only cosmetically resembling the comic versions.

    The original team, however, had a pretty straightforward Origin and Introduction. Plus, Major Vance Astro is like the coolest super hero name ever. I ask you, if you had a kickass name like Vance Astro, why would you ever pick a cheesy codename like Justice? I'd be rockin' my real name as my SuperHero name.
    Did you never read the new version? That was it's charm. A bunch of rag tag C-Listers who all had different personalities working together. It was one of the best titles being published when it was out.

    And who out of the original team could carry their own books? What does that even matter? No X-Men character, apart from Wolverine, and Deadpool if you count him, can carry their own book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    Green Lantern failed because it was garbage and spent about 10 minutes in space after advertising it as an epic space adventure. John Carter failed because it had one of the worst marketing campaigns ever and Taylor Kitsch isn't exactly star material.
    Thank you, market expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jediracer View Post
    Thank you, market expert.
    You don't need to be an expert to figure that out. I mean what, all the marketing had GL as this epic space opera like Star Wars. We had interviews from people involved with the film saying "this will be the Star Wars of a new generation!"

    Then the film had literally 10-15 minutes in space?

    John Carter, i actually liked. But it's widely regarded to have been terribly marketed.

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    Thanos and the Skrull better not be as stupid as they were in the Avengers movie.

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    What Skrull? And how was Thanos stupid?

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    Aww, man.
    I created a NEW account here (forgot my old info) just to comment on this story.

    This is AWESOME news! I've been following the teases for a while and I'm glad we're getting a pretty solid confirmation.
    GotG has been leaking into marvel toys and video games for a little while now. It was the best book on the stands (that you weren't reading, lol) when it was out. I was super excited that they were bringing them back in The Avengers Assemble book. I would have been happy with another regular comic series.
    News of a frikin' major motion picture is an early Christmas gift to me!

    For those of you with doubts just read the 4 issue Starlord Mini Series that's regarded as the first TRUE New GotG story. It's also featured in the Annihalation: Conquest Book 2 trade I believe. It's all you need as a starting point and a VERY satisfying read on its own.

    It briefly shows Starlord's early adventures in space (and how it ended poorly for him). He's a man that is burdened by past mistakes, yet he's seen as a hero by so many. So he's chosen to lead a group of "space criminals" to stop an intergalactic threat, The Phalanx (Think of the Borg from Star Trek except they even assimilate other machines). So this rag tag group of space misfits go on to stop this major threat that's WAAAY beyond them. They suffer several casualties along the way, some heroic sacrifices and even one due to "friendly fire". At the end of the adventure the survivors band together and become the Guardians of the Galaxy. It's like the Dirty Dozen in space.

    No need for any complex back story at all, just an all around awesome read and can EASILY be adapted for a movie with some minor changes here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    What Skrull? And how was Thanos stupid?
    The one voiced by Wesley from Angel. And he was stupid because he let a ragtag team of upjumped humans defeat an entire army and was not able to get the cube for himself.

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    Underestimating ones opponents (once) does not make one stupid. Underestimating ones opponents repeatedly however does make one at least appear stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jediracer View Post
    Thank you, market expert.
    And your assessment was any more or less valid?

    Bravery's right: GL was supposed to be the next Star Wars, but had WAY too much Earth in it--an all-too-common pitfall of the Green Lantern comics in general (space cop of an entire sector of space, always hangs out in California. Yeah! Good use of his time!)--so it didn't exactly measure up to that Star Wars prediction. The B-plot (or C-plot?) of the yellow weapon to battle Parallax, that was brushed aside so quickly that the mid-credit Sinestro scene felt like an awful tacked-on thing. Mark Strong played Sinestro well, but he was horribly underused. GalaxyQuest kept the heroes off Earth for far more of the film than GL did.

    And John Carter, which COULD have been a new Star Wars--and should've been--was horribly marketed, treated like garbage by Disney because the people in charge when it was well into production were not the same people that put it into production and thus couldn't care less about it, and then it was thrown under the bus by Disney before it'd even been out a week. Yeah, Taylor maybe wasn't the best choice of lead, but I liked him in a LOT of the scenes and partly I think it was Carter's personal storyline that made him seem a rough fit. There were story issues, true, but it was no more flawed than...well, than most Star Wars films. And less flawed than many. The perfect example of how terribly Disney treated that film is this: WHERE ARE THE TOYS? MIB3 has toys. Dark Knight. Amazing Spider-Man. The GIJoe movie that got pushed back to next year still has toys out right now. Real Steel got toys. Tron:Legacy got toys.

    John Carter? NOPE. No 4" Carter & Dejah action figures with 6" Tars Tarkas standing on our shelves & desks & in our kids' toy chests. No Woola plush. No cool flyer vehicles. No t-shirts, lunchboxes.

    So, yeah...poor box office wasn't the real problem with John Carter. It's not a good example of "hey, space adventures don't do well at theaters".

    GotG's got hurdles to overcome, but I think it could work if the script's there, and if Disney treats it with a lot more respect and support than they did John Carter. I love the 2008 team... at least with the modern team, there's a chance it'll all be related to the rest of the Marvel Movieverse which could help sell it. The original team, being 1000 years in the future, would have to completely stand alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    Green Lantern failed because it was garbage and spent about 10 minutes in space after advertising it as an epic space adventure. John Carter failed because it had one of the worst marketing campaigns ever and Taylor Kitsch isn't exactly star material.

    GotG needs some big stars in the leads. Marvel can't just use young unknowns for this. With great visuals and some eye catching trailers, link it to the phenomenon that is Avengers, it could be successful. Not Avengers big, but Thor or even Iron Man big.
    Where do we start the campaigns for Nathan Fillion for Star-Lord and John Statham to voice Rocket Raccoon?

    You think the budget would allow Peter Cullen, the voice of Optimus Prime to play Groot?

    Quote Originally Posted by jediracer View Post
    The one voiced by Wesley from Angel. And he was stupid because he let a ragtag team of upjumped humans defeat an entire army and was not able to get the cube for himself.
    Oh, you mean the thing they had credited as 'The Other' that did all the talking for Thanos.

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    That wasn't a Skrull was it? And all Thanos did was give Loki the sceptre thing and the use of his army. I guess he used Loki to test the waters, so to speak. Loki was the one who told him Earth would fold. And he didn't seem too unhappy about the failure, considering his smirk at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonimator View Post
    And your assessment was any more or less valid?

    Bravery's right: GL was supposed to be the next Star Wars, but had WAY too much Earth in it--an all-too-common pitfall of the Green Lantern comics in general (space cop of an entire sector of space, always hangs out in California. Yeah! Good use of his time!)--so it didn't exactly measure up to that Star Wars prediction. The B-plot (or C-plot?) of the yellow weapon to battle Parallax, that was brushed aside so quickly that the mid-credit Sinestro scene felt like an awful tacked-on thing. Mark Strong played Sinestro well, but he was horribly underused. GalaxyQuest kept the heroes off Earth for far more of the film than GL did.

    And John Carter, which COULD have been a new Star Wars--and should've been--was horribly marketed, treated like garbage by Disney because the people in charge when it was well into production were not the same people that put it into production and thus couldn't care less about it, and then it was thrown under the bus by Disney before it'd even been out a week. Yeah, Taylor maybe wasn't the best choice of lead, but I liked him in a LOT of the scenes and partly I think it was Carter's personal storyline that made him seem a rough fit. There were story issues, true, but it was no more flawed than...well, than most Star Wars films. And less flawed than many. The perfect example of how terribly Disney treated that film is this: WHERE ARE THE TOYS? MIB3 has toys. Dark Knight. Amazing Spider-Man. The GIJoe movie that got pushed back to next year still has toys out right now. Real Steel got toys. Tron:Legacy got toys.

    John Carter? NOPE. No 4" Carter & Dejah action figures with 6" Tars Tarkas standing on our shelves & desks & in our kids' toy chests. No Woola plush. No cool flyer vehicles. No t-shirts, lunchboxes.

    So, yeah...poor box office wasn't the real problem with John Carter. It's not a good example of "hey, space adventures don't do well at theaters".

    GotG's got hurdles to overcome, but I think it could work if the script's there, and if Disney treats it with a lot more respect and support than they did John Carter. I love the 2008 team... at least with the modern team, there's a chance it'll all be related to the rest of the Marvel Movieverse which could help sell it. The original team, being 1000 years in the future, would have to completely stand alone.
    haha thanks for the back up.

    And yea what Disney did with John Carter is kinda disgraceful. They did throw it under the bus, proclaiming to news outlets that it was a bomb before the first week was over. That just completely killed it. Who is gonna want to see a movie where it's own studio admitted it was a bomb?

    Also you're right about it being no worse than most Star Wars films. Shit, i'd put John Carter above all the Star Wars prequels quite comfortably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wellman View Post
    Where do we start the campaigns for Nathan Fillion for Star-Lord and John Statham to voice Rocket Raccoon?

    You think the budget would allow Peter Cullen, the voice of Optimus Prime to play Groot?
    I'm not sure about Fillion as Quill. I like him a lot, and Quill is pretty similar to Mal. But i think it needs some bonafide A-Listers. How about Tom Cruise as Quill? That would get peoples attention and i think he could pull it off with flying colours. Slim chance of that happening though.

    And yea, Jason Statham or Ray Winstone or even Bob Hoskins as Rocket.

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