Deadliest Warrior vs. Celebrity Deathmatch

[MorphyVSFischer]

yeah the choice of weapons that the producers gave is kinda appalling.

as for the american bias, i partially agree, but season 1 had green berets lose to spetsnaz. let's not forget that.

Wasn't that like the only time they lost though? And that fight was one of the closest on the show as well

[IssunBoshi]

Wasn't that like the only time they lost though? And that fight was one of the closest on the show as well

well considering it's an American show anyway, some patriotic americans would believe that seeing a US Armed Forces lose even once is just too much. And not to mention against America's former Soviety adversary. Not that I wouldn't want to see them lose for a change, but you get me.

but yeah back on thread, it would be interesting to see how Celebrity Deathmatch fares against DW's Zombies and Vampires.

[GozertheGozarian]

Haley Joel Osment commands the ghosts of every competitor that's ever died on the show. Or they use the giant mecha from Beastie Boys vs. Backstreet Boys.

[Dr Will Hatch]

1) Which show was more awesome and fun?

2) Which show do you miss more after their "cancellation" or "discontinuation"?

3) Which show deserves a revival more?

4) Every warrior featured in DW fights every celebrity and thing featured in CD. Who wins?

1. Deadliest Warrior. I thought Celebrity Deathmatch sometimes got a little too cruel, and I enjoyed the repartee between the announcers and Judge Mills Lane more than the actual bouts.

2. DW. After seeing the revival, I don't think CD has much juice left in it.

3. DW

4. Celebrity Deathmatch people can machine gun all the warriors to death.

[IssunBoshi]

1. Deadliest Warrior. I thought Celebrity Deathmatch sometimes got a little too cruel, and I enjoyed the repartee between the announcers and Judge Mills Lane more than the actual bouts.

2. DW. After seeing the revival, I don't think CD has much juice left in it.

3. DW

4. Celebrity Deathmatch people can machine gun all the warriors to death.

Cool response for number 4.

[Ptrvc]

Which was one of many problems, especially considering the producers of the show made the experts pick opnly certain weapons, usaully based only on how cool they looked.
Season 2 with its famous general's was actaully worse in a lot of way because the numbers they assigned to certain things was often completely arbitrary.
There is also the fact the show clearly had an american bias (Washington beating Napoleon? Totally insane)

Eh considering the "armies" they were commanding consisted of five of so people, I would give Washington the edge honestly, as far as I know Napoleon wasn't necessarily a tactical genius, and Washington was lot bigger.

My biggest problem with deadliest warrior was that they seemed to back out of all the fights we wanted to see, Knight vs. Samurai, Pirate vs. Ninja, etc (I honestly thought the knight would kick everyone pre-gunpowders ass and kinda got cheated in that respect.)

After they switched to exclusively general vs. general the show became a shadow of itself. It was never that realistic or scientific, but at least it was FUN, the whole general thing was stupid.

The worst matchup in the entire show however, had to be Joan of Arc vs. Charlemagne. It was literally small group vs another small group who fought in the exact same style, but with better weapons.

[IssunBoshi]

Eh considering the "armies" they were commanding consisted of five of so people, I would give Washington the edge honestly, as far as I know Napoleon wasn't necessarily a tactical genius, and Washington was lot bigger.

My biggest problem with deadliest warrior was that they seemed to back out of all the fights we wanted to see, Knight vs. Samurai, Pirate vs. Ninja, etc (I honestly thought the knight would kick everyone pre-gunpowders ass and kinda got cheated in that respect.)

After they switched to exclusively general vs. general the show became a shadow of itself. It was never that realistic or scientific, but at least it was FUN, the whole general thing was stupid.

The worst matchup in the entire show however, had to be Joan of Arc vs. Charlemagne. It was literally small group vs another small group who fought in the exact same style, but with better weapons.

1. The reason they didn't make Pirate vs. Ninja was because Max Geiger feared huge shitstorms would arise from it and as such he stated that "we are not going to open up that can of worms". Pirate vs. Ninja is better off as an internet meme like it is.

2. General vs. General? what do you mean? in season 3, all but three of the match-ups focused on famous indviduals.

3. You meant Joan of Arc vs. William the Conqueror. Charlemagne never appeared in the show.

4. So ptvrc, what about answering DW vs. CDM in all four scenarios?

[MorphyVSFischer]

Eh considering the "armies" they were commanding consisted of five of so people, I would give Washington the edge honestly, as far as I know Napoleon wasn't necessarily a tactical genius, and Washington was lot bigger.

I thought the five was merely supposed to represent armies since the fight scenario's were never exactly based on reality. If not thats actaully even dumber consdering the style of both armies at the time.
Besides that while Napololeon isn't really known for his tactical genius Washington wasn't THAT special either. Its more like he got lucky a few times and was really good at inspiring his men.

[IssunBoshi]

I thought the five was merely supposed to represent armies since the fight scenario's were never exactly based on reality. If not thats actaully even dumber consdering the style of both armies at the time.
Besides that while Napololeon isn't really known for his tactical genius Washington wasn't THAT special either. Its more like he got lucky a few times and was really good at inspiring his men.

let's not turn this into "washington vs. napoleon", guys.

[Ptrvc]

1. The reason they didn't make Pirate vs. Ninja was because Max Geiger feared huge shitstorms would arise from it and as such he stated that "we are not going to open up that can of worms". Pirate vs. Ninja is better off as an internet meme like it is.

2. General vs. General? what do you mean? in season 3, all but three of the match-ups focused on famous indviduals.

3. You meant Joan of Arc vs. William the Conqueror. Charlemagne never appeared in the show.

4. So ptvrc, what about answering DW vs. CDM in all four scenarios?

1. I know, but its still wimping out, and they were opening up big huge cans of worms anyways, they probably would have generated more buzz.

2. But it was always from a commanding position. It was never one on one, like William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu, or Vlad vs. Sun Tzu.

3. Yeah, I confused the two. Still I maintain that was the worse match up in the show, because it was literally two groups that were almost exactly the same, except one was a few hundred years more advanced. Mail vs. Plate etc.

4.Eh, its kinda obvious that CDM wins in the vs. other than that, I'd like to see a Deadliest Warrior all the way for me. I'd like to see a revival, but pull back to first season, keep famous individuals battles as the exception rather than the rule, same with the more modern stuff, and keep group battles to a minimum as well. Also a lot more humility from the actual hosts, and acknowledge that their results had little to do with reality.

I thought the five was merely supposed to represent armies since the fight scenario's were never exactly based on reality. If not thats actaully even dumber consdering the style of both armies at the time.
Besides that while Napololeon isn't really known for his tactical genius Washington wasn't THAT special either. Its more like he got lucky a few times and was really good at inspiring his men.

Well, assuming that the five on five was accurate, which I believe was the intention, Washington would have the advantage that he could one on one, kick Napoleon's hiney around the field all day.

Also that kind of small scale warfare was what the American Militia excelled at, and the Grand Army historically did not, the rifle would have a clear advantage in this case, unlike in pitched battles, while the cannon would have been less effective overall, with no great big mass of men to shoot at.

[IssunBoshi]

1. I know, but its still wimping out, and they were opening up big huge cans of worms anyways, they probably would have generated more buzz.

2. But it was always from a commanding position. It was never one on one, like William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu, or Vlad vs. Sun Tzu.

3. Yeah, I confused the two. Still I maintain that was the worse match up in the show, because it was literally two groups that were almost exactly the same, except one was a few hundred years more advanced. Mail vs. Plate etc.

4.Eh, its kinda obvious that CDM wins in the vs. other than that, I'd like to see a Deadliest Warrior all the way for me. I'd like to see a revival, but pull back to first season, keep famous individuals battles as the exception rather than the rule, same with the more modern stuff, and keep group battles to a minimum as well. Also a lot more humility from the actual hosts, and acknowledge that their results had little to do with reality.

Well... what do you mean they were opening huge big cans of worms anyway? Pirate vs. Ninja was like the "Forbidden Fruit" in the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil to Max Meiger and the people who choose the DW match-ups. Most other match-ups would have been fine, but putting up stuff like pirate vs. ninja is just asking for the biggest havoc to be wreaked upon mankind.

And I dunno... I kinda loved group battles more than one-on-one, they're far more exciting and you get to see both sides eat it.

[chilled monkey]

1) Which show was more awesome and fun?

2) Which show do you miss more after their "cancellation" or "discontinuation"?

Deadliest Warrior to both. As much as it annoyed me I have to admit there was still a lot of entertainment and inspiration to be found from seeing so many different warrior types and weapons in action. Plus while the show had its problems the basic idea was cool.

I always found Celebrity Deathmatch to be very tiresome.

[IssunBoshi]

Deadliest Warrior to both. As much as it annoyed me I have to admit there was still a lot of entertainment and inspiration to be found from seeing so many different warrior types and weapons in action. Plus while the show had its problems the basic idea was cool.

I always found Celebrity Deathmatch to be very tiresome.

You found celebrity deathmatch to be tiresome? oh well.