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    Default The Vision the 1st cry?

    Was Vision the first android/robot to cry in any medium(sp?)?
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    Wow. What a great question. I'm sure I'll be beaten to the answer, but given my avatar I felt the need to post something. My guess is that the Torch will pre-date him, but further research is required. More to come. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Maurice View Post
    Wow. What a great question. I'm sure I'll be beaten to the answer, but given my avatar I felt the need to post something. My guess is that the Torch will pre-date him, but further research is required. More to come. . .
    You think Torch I shed a tear first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Maurice View Post
    Wow. What a great question. I'm sure I'll be beaten to the answer, but given my avatar I felt the need to post something. My guess is that the Torch will pre-date him, but further research is required. More to come. . .
    But what's the latest ret-con on that? Weren't they the same person, then different, and so on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by destro View Post
    But what's the latest ret-con on that? Weren't they the same person, then different, and so on?
    Yep. Torch/Vision have less history than Jean/Phoenix but their story is just as convulated as Jean/Phoenix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    You think Torch I shed a tear first?
    Maybe not a tear, but certainly deep misgivings over measures he was forced to take in Marvel Comics #1. Can't find an actual tear, but the sentiment is there. A better example will surely follow, but here is an entity doing damage that he clearly regrets and cannot control. Look:
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    You think Torch I shed a tear first?
    I thought Jim Hammond cried when Spitfire spurned him for Cap....

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    I don't know about crying, but robots developing human feelings happens in the very first work to even use the word "robot," the 1920 Czech play R.U.R. I'm sure there was an oily tear or two somewhere in all of the science fiction that was written before the Vision was introduced, too.

    Edit: Yeah, I checked the full text of R.U.R. and it ends with the robot Helena showing that she has feelings by crying about her lover and asking she be dissected in his place, convincing the last surviving human character to declare them the new Adam and Eve.

    http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/cape.../complete.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Hopkins View Post
    I don't know about crying, but robots developing human feelings happens in the very first work to even use the word "robot," the 1920 Czech play R.U.R. I'm sure there was an oily tear or two somewhere in all of the science fiction that was written before the Vision was introduced, too.

    Edit: Yeah, I checked the full text of R.U.R. and it ends with the robot Helena showing that she has feelings by crying about her lover and asking she be dissected in his place, convincing the last surviving human character to declare them the new Adam and Eve.

    http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/cape.../complete.html

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