This thread is everything that is wrong with WW. I wonder if the day will ever come when we'll be able to talk about WW's relationships without using the words "domination" and "loving submission" and all that crap. Why can other superheroes have normal relationships and marriages and everything without anyone dominating anyone, without this weird kinky stuff? Why can we talk about Lois and Clark, Barry and Iris, Batman and Catwoman, Mr and Mrs Fantastic, etc without going there? Without analyzing what it means to feminism, sexism or whatever? Why is WW tangled in this mess that she can never escape from?
And i cant even begin to describe how weird it seems to me that dshipp is shipping WW with a villain.
Last edited by Dr. Hurt; 06-23-2012 at 04:13 PM.
One question: if Wonder Woman loves everyone, why she didn't say so to Trevor in that flashback we saw in JL? She wouldn't be lying u_u
Wonder Woman loves you too.
There's a difference between love and being in love. Steve was in a place where he could declare being in love with Diana. She was not. Yeah she could have just said so and been telling the truth on a technicality, but how crappy a thing is that to do to someone. She was truly honest, which is a hell of a lot more respectable.
'The marquis. Well, you know, to be honest, he seems a little bit dodgy to me.'
'Mm,' she agreed. 'He's a little bit dodgy in the same way that rats are a little bit covered in fur."
It'll never happen. WW will always be that feminist character.... DC could make WW into a serial rapist & people would still defend WW & her raping as eminist. There will never be a time when WW will be considered a character, rather then the embodyment of feminism, or a stand in for a political ideal, or a stand in for "every woman." Its never going to happen. For it to happen we would have to move beyond the sillier aspects of the character & people in positions of authority online would be required to smack down self entitled threads on forum boards & blogs wherever it appears.
After reading halfway thru this thread all I can say is
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Jean Grey : What makes you such a bitch, Emma?
Emma Frost : Breeding, darling. Top class breeding.
NotSuper, please tell me you didn't edit that & thats a raw scan, as it originally appeared in an old timey copy of WW. Because that would make my day.
Great question DJ.
Of course we dont know what Diana did not say. But I am really eager to see how she reacts to what the villain did to him to get the info about the satellite. Personally I am betting that what we saw against the parademons was nothing compared to what happens when Diana learns about Steve's torture.
And if it was love they were talking about, then she is certainly smart enough to know that he loves her in a way very different to the way she feels about Hades. The Greeks actually had words for the different kinds of love, and perhaps she knew she couldn't commit to what Steve was asking. Her conversation with him from the satellite is kind of interesting - they are both all smiles, but I wonder how much of her smile is covering the same awkward feelings he has.
Irene Adler: “I would have you right here on this desk until you begged for mercy twice.”
Sherlock: “I’ve never begged for mercy in my life.”
Irene: “Twice.”
And that's why everyone in the army read WW at the time. Not because they cared about comics or superheroic adventures.
My question is, people in 2012 want to read that? Just go all out and pick up an issue of Playboy.
Well, you brought that into the conversation when you just grouped Dr. Psycho into a band of villains; it came just after I defined a real villains motives; so, I showed you what a real villain is supposed to resemble. And Luthor is as vicious as they come because he resembles a real white collar type; they are managers and the real life white collar types are probably nearly as guilty of acts on the scale of Luthor, while Joker and Darkseid are probably just comic book villains. Dr. Psycho is yet another real life case whose voice would be completely muted.
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