What's the appeal in cape comics?

[Vibranium]

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Undesirable?

she's probably a vegetarian....and gay

it being an indie comic and all

[Charles RB]

Undesirable?

(Yeah, I'm going for the big guns)

[Hulk_Is]

No you don't.

Seriously, not joking: you don't. There are too many artists out there for you to have seen most of them and find them "something undesirable".

I'm pretty sure most are terrible. I see the cover solicits and some previews every month. Terrible.

[Hulk_Is]

All of the art that's been posted is fine and dandy if cape comics don't make up most of your read pile. Cape comics make up 100% of my pulls and that is not the kind of art I find desirable. Take it or leave it.

[Paradox]

Weirdest thread ever. You can't classify indy comics in the way being done because independent is an "other" category. There's nothing resembling a unified style or method because it's just "everything not published by a major publisher". You want to make it capes vs. indy, but there are indy cape books!

Hey, you want to prefer Big Two superhero books, be my guest, but your railing against "indy" books is just showing a stunning amount of ignorance. Just like and buy what you want. If you don't like the kind of books you mention, than simply don't buy them. But some people want something different, and there's nothing wrong with that, either. I've known a lot of comic readers on these boards and by far most I've known would buy cape books AND indy books. It's not some exclusive club, it's just what you enjoy.

[Hulk_Is]

Weirdest thread ever. You can't classify indy comics in the way being done because independent is an "other" category. There's nothing resembling a unified style or method because it's just "everything not published by a major publisher". You want to make it capes vs. indy, but there are indy cape books!

Hey, you want to prefer Big Two superhero books, be my guest, but your railing against "indy" books is just showing a stunning amount of ignorance. Just like and buy what you want. If you don't like the kind of books you mention, than simply don't buy them. But some people want something different, and there's nothing wrong with that, either. I've known a lot of comic readers on these boards and by far most I've known would buy cape books AND indy books. It's not some exclusive club, it's just what you enjoy.

That's exactly what I do, but apparently not buying any indie books whatsoever is a sin around here. Go figure.

[Alex Scott]

I'm really having trouble with some of the assumptions in this thread. Is this really still a big dichotomy? I feel like I'm looking into a weird time portal into the 90's, when it pretty much was "superheroes" and "indies." If that's the framework, then what does that make the many successful non-superhero genre books from big publishing houses? Or comics based on big media properties, like Adventure Time, or the Last Airbender, or the Simpsons? Or manga and webcomics?

I'm also kind of stumbling on the idea of "escapism" presented in here, as if there's no other way to be escapist. Even realistic fiction can be escapist, because you're leaving your own reality and taking part in someone else's. And besides that, there are things like hard sci-fi, hard fantasy, surrealism, horror, and farce all over the non-superhero world. Marvel and DC don't own escapism.

[Paradox]

Hulk_Is goes to the persecution card:

That's exactly what I do, but apparently not buying any indie books whatsoever is a sin around here. Go figure.

It's odd, but not unheard of. It seems a little rigid, and you'd probably benefit intellectually with some branching out, but...eh, that's your business. I think a lot of it, though, is because you keep saying strange and incorrect things about "indy books" that gives people the impression that you don't really know what you're talking about there.

[Hulk_Is]

It's odd, but not unheard of. It seems a little rigid, and you'd probably benefit intellectually with some branching out, but...eh, that's your business. I think a lot of it, though, is because you keep saying strange and incorrect things about "indy books" that gives people the impression that you don't really know what you're talking about there.

What am I saying exactly that's incorrect about indy books? Do they not mostly lack the traditional-looking superhero house styles that I enjoy so much? Am I correct in saying that indy books delve mostly into non-cape territories - other genres that I have an extremely low interest for? Do indy books not routinely kill off characters and largely eschew continuity? Do most indy comics fans not have a chip on their shoulder?

Please let me know what's incorrect here.

[Jeff Brady]

What am I saying exactly that's incorrect about indy books? Do they not mostly lack the traditional-looking superhero house styles that I enjoy so much? Am I correct in saying that indy books delve mostly into non-cape territories - other genres that I have an extremely low interest for? Do indy books not routinely kill off characters and largely eschew continuity? Do most indy comics fans not have a chip on their shoulder?

Please let me know what's incorrect here.

What's incorrect is your astonishing amount of willful ignorance.

"I only read cape books" is like saying "I only watch law firm dramas on the ABC network" or "I only read books about the manufacturing of speaker magnets" or "I only listen to music if the song is about cleaning windows" or "I only go to ear wax museums".

I guess that's fine if you want your mind to be completely closed off from other points of view and other types of stories. But holy fuck, that makes you pretty intellectually devoid and down-right boring.

[dupont2005]

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Undesirable?

I don't think anything in any color monthly comic has ever matched his talent. Ever. I don't think the quality he puts in every single issue could even be done in a month by anybody on any sort of consistent basis, not even him.

[dupont2005]

All of the art that's been posted is fine and dandy if cape comics don't make up most of your read pile. Cape comics make up 100% of my pulls and that is not the kind of art I find desirable. Take it or leave it.

What if one of those indie guys used to do cape comics? Would that blow your mind or what?

[dupont2005]

Do indy books not routinely kill off characters and largely eschew continuity?

Eschew continuity? I don't think so. I have yet to see a single retcon in any indy comic I read. Some go three hundred issues without completely fucking up everything that happened in the prior issues. I don't know if simply rewriting a character's origin every 25 issues even happens in indy comics, except the ones that exist solely to make fun of mainstream comics.



As far as the killing off of characters, not nearly as often as in Marvel comics. Just when they die in non super hero comics they tend to stay dead. I guess that makes the creators a bit more selective in when to use that little plot device.

[Hulk_Is]

What's incorrect is your astonishing amount of willful ignorance.

"I only read cape books" is like saying "I only watch law firm dramas on the ABC network" or "I only read books about the manufacturing of speaker magnets" or "I only listen to music if the song is about cleaning windows" or "I only go to ear wax museums".

I guess that's fine if you want your mind to be completely closed off from other points of view and other types of stories. But holy fuck, that makes you pretty intellectually devoid and down-right boring.

I'm reading comic books - I don't need another POV. And I don't like other kinds of stories, especially ones told with 'undesirable' artwork. I don't read comics to become intellectually stimulated, at least not on purpose.

[Hulk_Is]

What if one of those indie guys used to do cape comics? Would that blow your mind or what?

It all depends on if that indie writer could spin a good capes tale I'd be interested in. Usually, those guys seem to be 'talking head' types when it comes to superheroes. Me no like.