X-Men Legacy #269 *Preview*

[Genisstorm]

Wolverine is a murderer, his first choice is always to kill, not kill Hope, is one of the few times not shown as being a idiot he is.



Rogue is doing well, that will stop talking to that cow, or approach, but he departed long ribs rogue, she was only trying to help, let Rogue, hit that bitch, the tiein that most interests me, Rogue is very powerful, so if left in a coma, and Carol was able to strike down the drain, it's a sign, rogue follows with kid gloves with carol, otherwise the battle lasted until there

Rogue gains in previews, with the powers of Iceman, used better, and when making their ancient powers of strength, was so sweet, brave Gage

I hope the keep Rogue, or starts to show the powers absorbed in the past, which is the basic progression of his powers.

if it does now, ible to do this in space, by some as Rogue stop there? I think Rogue is the one that switches sides and tries to reason or fight the phoenix five, and these the pull of the earth, because they know how dangerous is a Rogue furious

Thats what I mean. Hes a known murderer but even he would not have jumped right back in a boat like that. Rogue defending herself when being pushed is one thing, her going straight for the touch and go feels very uneasy to me or maybe she really just is a scumbag.

[crimsonspider89]

By taking there memories, she learns how to use there powers quicker by relying on there past mistakes.

[teddyeatsyourface]

When was that? I thought it was either powers or memories/life force/personality.

The excessive draining of life force/power itself is the reason for the fainting. The memories are well mental. She can absorb the memories of the a person, but that's not enough to knock them out. She'd have to drain a bit of their life force too

I have a few scenes in mind. I'll try to find the scans for you.

[mikekerrIII]

Yes but I can see how the flippant nature of it would get under peoples skin whether this is a war or not. I doubt a response like that would come from Wolverine or Spiderman if they were in that situation. Despite all of wolverines talk of war he couldnt pull the trigger when he had hope within his grasp.

The bit about Wolverine is proven wrong in this event multiple times He tried twice to kill her, he just could not do so when he didn't have an excuse

He is the loudest voice that brought this to war so saying he would not fight it as a wars seems strange.

[mikekerrIII]

It started with Cody, but carol took it to new heights.

Rogue unwillingness in absorbing Carol is not out of fear but more out of guilt. She never meant to take Carol's life into her mind.

Since gaining control Rogue has acquired the ability to absorb someone without taking their memories. I don't know why this has been undone in the recent Legacy issues.

She has the ability but she is using the unconsciousness as a weapon, If she did not they would still be in the fight.

I Hope Rogue treats her like She did Julia Carpenter and beats her to a bloody pulp, at least Rogue would have a valid reason for doing so

[mikekerrIII]

Thats what I mean. Hes a known murderer but even he would not have jumped right back in a boat like that. Rogue defending herself when being pushed is one thing, her going straight for the touch and go feels very uneasy to me or maybe she really just is a scumbag.

Or maybe instead of being a scumbag she is a soldier fighting an armed enemy, an enemy that is part of a group that has attacked her and her friends multiple times.

If this was personal it would be going to far but this is simply war, like Thor punching out a kid or the Avengers invading Utopia

[Starfish]

If Rogue's fighting as a soldier in a war, let's hope Scott shows up and vaporizes her. After all, he outlawed war.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

Carol is presenting herself like a bitch in heat in the top panel of the last page. She desires Rogue's touch!

[Aguja]

Bitch please, psycwave and I are part of a clique that transcends favorite characters.

Lol for some reason I didn't remember that you joined in 06. What is the clique?

[Genisstorm]

Or maybe instead of being a scumbag she is a soldier fighting an armed enemy, an enemy that is part of a group that has attacked her and her friends multiple times.

If this was personal it would be going to far but this is simply war, like Thor punching out a kid or the Avengers invading Utopia

But this is not a regular moment where she just comes across a random hero and just punches them in the face. This is her "uncle Ben" moment (where one moment of selfishness nearly ruins her entire life). When most heroes have a repeat of this moment (and they usually do at some point in their life) you never see them jump back so steadfast in the same situation that nearly destroyed them (war or no war). While it may make her look like a soldier it also makes her look like scum. Honestly if Mariko Yashida showed (from hell I grant you )up fighting on the side of the x-men do you honestly believe wolverine would pounce on her like that(and this is wolverine we are talking about, the man who so easily returns to murder on a dime drop)?

[remydat]

Yes but I can see how the flippant nature of it would get under peoples skin whether this is a war or not. I doubt a response like that would come from Wolverine or Spiderman if they were in that situation. Despite all of wolverines talk of war he couldnt pull the trigger when he had hope within his grasp.

To each his own. I don't care if someone is respectful of their enemies or not. And Hope has committed no crime nor declared war on Wolverine so the situation is not the same. Carol is part of a group that attacked them. Part of a group that in many respects talked to them always intended to use violence if those talks did not result in them getting what they wanted. There is no comparison to the Hope and Wolverine situation.

[remydat]

But this is not a regular moment where she just comes across a random hero and just punches them in the face. This is her "uncle Ben" moment (where one moment of selfishness nearly ruins her entire life). When most heroes have a repeat of this moment (and they usually do at some point in their life) you never see them jump back so steadfast in the same situation that nearly destroyed them (war or no war). While it may make her look like a soldier it also makes her look like scum. Honestly if Mariko Yashida showed (from hell I grant you )up fighting on the side of the x-men do you honestly believe wolverine would pounce on her like that(and this is wolverine we are talking about, the man who so easily returns to murder on a dime drop)?

It is not the same situation as Rogue does not seem to have any intent in knocking Carol out. I suspect she will take her powers initially but choose not to knock Carrol out which means it is different that with the rest of the Avengers who she had no problem knocking them out.

And again Carol came looking for Rogue and is part of a group that came to Utopia wanting to talk but yet had a full army ready to fight. It is simply not comparable to Spidey's Uncle Ben moment. The precedent has been set that the Avengers cannot be trusted when they come to you under the pretense that they want to talk.

[remydat]

The excessive draining of life force/power itself is the reason for the fainting. The memories are well mental. She can absorb the memories of the a person, but that's not enough to knock them out. She'd have to drain a bit of their life force too

I have a few scenes in mind. I'll try to find the scans for you.

Carey also spoke of wanting to establish limitations to her new found control and this appears to be one of them. I don't recall Rogue ever being able to knock someone unconscious without also absorbing their memories/essence. My understanding was unconsciousness was not so much a power but rather a side effect of Rogue using her powers (ie absorbing someone's memories or abilities) so if she wants to knock people out in a battle it comes at the cost of absorbing their memories/essence.