Where the heck is Jean Grey in this mess?

[Phoenix Egg]

"I look at Hope...and I see creator failure".

"I look at Hope...and I see creative bankruptcy."

[MartinRedmond]

"I look at Hope...and I see creative bankruptcy."

All things THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WHATSOEVER WITH OUR BELOVED JEAN GREY!

[otipep_90]

Hope Summers is the most unoriginal marvel character ever! Like stated she is a best hits of Jean Grey and all her children.

Anyone who can say she doesn't ressemble Jean in anyway can not say that with a serious face. She was created to be Jean and everything about her screams it. Now that Marvel has changed their plans she has been left as a broken character with no possible development with the X-Men. She is neither duaghter nor clone, she is just a misshapen frankenstein with no purpose but be 'The Messiah'. How long can that go?

Her only salvation now is to tuRN into Jean Grey like she was ment to, at the end of AvX or die like a true Messiah/martyr. Its the only way.

Marvel needs to bring back Jean now, it been to damn long with too many teases. It disrespectful, unprofessional and uncurtious to their fans. How many more do they plan on losing? Its like pissing on her grave to constantly mention her, use her image and tease her 'inevitable' return.

[BlindX]

Jean is everywhere and nowhere, it really depends on which version of Jean your looking for. Just follow the red herrings.

My "theory" is that Jean is "sleeping" inside a Phenix Egg on the blue side of the Moon, waiting to be found and be reborn 150 years in the future, or "whenever" Marvel decides its time for her return.

Like the original "retcon", Jean was replaced by the Phoenix after being "snikt" by Wolverine and burning up in the Sun, when they were inside Astoroid M together. "It" created a new body and put Jean's old body inside a cocoon/phoenix egg to heal and assumed Jean's personality. On its way to Earth, the Cosmic Flaming Parrot dropped an egg on the Moon, which is how it ended up in "Here Comes Tommorow".

what exactly are you Jean fans missing? Pixie is covering being the "pure heart" of the team. Rachel is covering being the tk/ tp powerhouse. Hope is Phoenix incarnate. Emma is the telepathic girlfriend of Cyclops. There's an ARMY of Madelyne Pryors about to run amok. Red head red herrings all over the place, she get's more face time as a martyr than she did ALIVE in the books. How else can Marvel please you without hamhandedly having her parade around in a T-shirt that says "I LIVE"?

What exactly are you afraid of?. Is it the inevitable "change" in status quo, that her return would cause?.

All those "substitutes" are gonna have to start waring t-shirts, that promote the aspect of Jean's character that they are borrowing, just to stay in the limelight.

I get Jean, I just don't get Jean fans.

Is it really that hard to understand?. Some people have no taste, and they'll accept substitutes.

Jean Grey fans obviusly, accept no substitutes. Why accept some watered down version when you can have the real thing.

I really think Jean should stay dead- or departed- this time around. If you resurrect a character once, that's passable.. but to do it more than that, well it renders the death somewhat ridiculous. Jean keeps risking her life and sacrificing herself over and over again- and while it had some meaning the first time, at this point the act has lost it's impact.

Jean's earthly existence is becoming a lot like her relationship with Scott. It keeps, over and over, running it's course, dying and being resurrected. At this point- their relationship is kaput and should have been done with long ago. Scott really needs to move on, preferably with someone who doesn't look like a clone of his ex girlfriend (like that's gonna happen!). And Jean... well, she has literally moved on. She's ascended. (I kinda wish she had just figuratively taken up with Wolverine, but oh well! Here's to a higher state of being!) They need to just let her go.. evolve, or whatever has happened- and stop reversing both the story line and Jean and Scott's character arcs!

The Phoenix has given Jean a bad rep for always dying and coming back, but with Jean it always turns out she never died in the first place. The Phoenix on the hand, always dies and always comes back.

Dead is dead, and when Jean "ascended", she was very much not dead, more like living, breathing and flesh and blood. Not exactly what i would call "dead". Dead people don't "fix" things that don't work and they certaintly don't fix timelines.

This version of the character could be taken in a new and different direction, and could fulfill all the requirements to make "everyone" happy.
Fanboys can have their cake and eat it too, and haters can keep their status quo, but this would require some "imagination" from Marvel.

I think it’s quite simplistic to say that Marvel refuses to bring Jean Grey back just because they doesn’t want to break Emma/Scott up, unless her role in X-Men is confined to Scott’s wife.

It speaks of their lack of imagination that they had to kill her off in the first place, just to make Emma and Scott into a couple. It wasn't coincidence, its comic books. This same lack of imagination will inevitable result in the reverse. Because they have this insane idea that this two cannot live without each other unless the other one is "dead".

Here comes tomorrow was a great Jean arc and her meaningful exit.

Very meaningful indeed, being used as a deus ex machina, just to "push" someone.

[RiptideX]

Jean is everywhere and nowhere, it really depends on which version of Jean your looking for. Just follow the red herrings.

My "theory" is that Jean is "sleeping" inside a Phenix Egg on the blue side of the Moon, waiting to be found and be reborn 150 years in the future, or "whenever" Marvel decides its time for her return.

Like the original "retcon", Jean was replaced by the Phoenix after being "snikt" by Wolverine and burning up in the Sun, when they were inside Astoroid M together. "It" created a new body and put Jean's old body inside a cocoon/phoenix egg to heal and assumed Jean's personality. On its way to Earth, the Cosmic Flaming Parrot dropped an egg on the Moon, which is how it ended up in "Here Comes Tommorow".




What exactly are you afraid of?. Is it the inevitable "change" in status quo, that her return would cause?.

All those "substitutes" are gonna have to start waring t-shirts, that promote the aspect of Jean's character that they are borrowing, just to stay in the limelight.





Is it really that hard to understand?. Some people have no taste, and they'll accept substitutes.

Jean Grey fans obviusly, accept no substitutes. Why accept some watered down version when you can have the real thing.



The Phoenix has given Jean a bad rep for always dying and coming back, but with Jean it always turns out she never died in the first place. The Phoenix on the hand, always dies and always comes back.

Dead is dead, and when Jean "ascended", she was very much not dead, more like living, breathing and flesh and blood. Not exactly what i would call "dead". Dead people don't "fix" things that don't work and they certaintly don't fix timelines.

This version of the character could be taken in a new and different direction, and could fulfill all the requirements to make "everyone" happy.
Fanboys can have their cake and eat it too, and haters can keep their status quo, but this would require some "imagination" from Marvel.




It speaks of their lack of imagination that they had to kill her off in the first place, just to make Emma and Scott into a couple. It wasn't coincidence, its comic books. This same lack of imagination will inevitable result in the reverse. Because they have this insane idea that this two cannot live without each other unless the other one is "dead".




Very meaningful indeed, being used as a deus ex machina, just to "push" someone.

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