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    Default George Perez Discusses Superman, Why he left and Everything Superman related.

    This is from the recent Superman Celebration in Metropolis Il earlier this month. You will find why he left Superman at the 32 minute mark.

    Special thanks to Jamie and Ronda Kelley and all the folks at the Superman Homepage.

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    Stellar Superman editorial strikes again in other words. I respect his opinions on Superman and if that differs with what the brass have in mind for him in the future I can appreciate that and respect it from both sides, but when I hear they kept rewriting shit because they couldn't make up their minds in regards to basic concepts on a character that's been completely rebooted and has no restrictions save for Morrison's Action, its just perplexing.

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    Could anyone just summarize what he said about why he left superman? The first part of this video is too long and not that interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndItsOn! View Post
    Could anyone just summarize what he said about why he left superman? The first part of this video is too long and not that interesting....
    You could just fast forward to the 32 minute mark and it states right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    Stellar Superman editorial strikes again in other words. I respect his opinions on Superman and if that differs with what the brass have in mind for him in the future I can appreciate that and respect it from both sides, but when I hear they kept rewriting shit because they couldn't make up their minds in regards to basic concepts on a character that's been completely rebooted and has no restrictions save for Morrison's Action, its just perplexing.
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    "Its not edgy enough Perez! We need you to rewrite it!! We need to change it!!"

    I believe thats why I believe his last 2 issues he did those to prove exactly what Superman isnt, then as soon as Giffen and Jurgens got back they used it to set up Superman to what he suppose to be more like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher-Z View Post
    "Its not edgy enough Perez! We need you to rewrite it!! We need to change it!!"

    I believe thats why I believe his last 2 issues he did those to prove exactly what Superman isnt, then as soon as Giffen and Jurgens got back they used it to set up Superman to what he suppose to be more like.
    I wonder why Giffen and Jurgens were allowed to do what Perez wasn't.

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    Perez is a mega-classic artist, but kind of a lousy writer. It's better for the title that he's no longer on it.

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    44 minutes? I may have to wait until Friday to watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dupersuper View Post
    44 minutes? I may have to wait until Friday to watch it.
    There's nothing to watch, it's audio only.

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    So it looks like Editorial rewrote huge chunks of his story towards the end without his input. Nice. It sounds like even DiDio ended up out of the loop after he hand picked George. Interesting.

    So one wonders what other stories, arcs and things that have been re-written by Idelson since his tenure started? Maybe this explains why NEW KRYPTON, GROUNDED and other Superman comics these last few years have been mediocre. As I've long started to suspect, these comics aren't being written by the guys on the credits page, they are largely being plotted by the writer and being rewritten by the editor to the point they are shells of themselves. Also might explain why after a stellar 1st issue for Giffen and Jurgens with #7, issue #8 (aside from the scenes with Jimmy and Lois) were mediocre.

    Also explains why ACTION is such a different animal than SUPERMAN. ACTION is being created by an actual creator with a vision. SUPERMAN is being written and mandated by an editorial hack.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. SUPERMAN will never improve until Idelson is gone. Maybe that's why Idelson is so receptive to Lobdell's ideas. He plans to rewrite them anyway!

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    That's a disheartening thought. And overall perplexing as to why its being tolerated in the first place. I mean if even Didio got left in the dark on some of these rewrites, you'd think he'd be none too happy either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    That's a disheartening thought. And overall perplexing as to why its being tolerated in the first place. I mean if even Didio got left in the dark on some of these rewrites, you'd think he'd be none too happy either.
    I used to blame DiDio largely for Superman's problems these last few years, and he still holds some culpability over some of the moves that led to the current state of the Superbooks (particularly dropping BIRTHRIGHT into continuity willy nilly without explaination) but I'm wondering if much of it is on Idelson. I'm not one who is big on conspiracy theories, but one wonders if some of these moves towards mediocrity aren't intentional. It also makes me wonder who's decision it was to nix the Lois and Clark marriage? Some of the early comments from DiDio were confusing to say the least, and it seemed like they were teasing a "have our cake and eat it too" dynamic where in ACTION they would be back to the love triangle and in SUPERMAN they would be either still married or a couple. I get the feeling that he doesn't care much for Lois Lane, so with his past comments about Lois being a "trophy wife" and his strange recent statements that as long as he was editor, lois and Clark would not be any sort of couple...it makes one wonder.

    It's troubling to say the least.

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    Well if the overall intent for DC is to make Superman cooler, Idelson ain't the answer. That's the bottom line.

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    I feel Superman title was clearly DC's foot to try to keep the door open just in case people did not accept the reboot. They keep saying they writing new Superman but I always got the impression the Superman title still had one foot stuck in the past. The writing was old school as was the art. Action Comics bravely takes the new/gold age influenced iteration of Clark and truly embraces it. A good writer can give us a Superman to gel with Action and JL and DC/Editorial and the big bosses need stick to their guns and stop listening to whining on the internet by fans still sour over the reboot. Matt Idelson has been accused of many unfair things by people because they simply not getting what they want. But then we must find a scapegoat to blame it all on. Never mind Jurgens also said he was there to rein Giffen in as well. I don't think it fair to dump the blame on any one person. To assume creators/ company don't want a successful product is kinda silly. It is in everyone's interest if Superman sells well and picks up new fans. DC is a company to sell books It is not there for nostalgia.

    Rocafort's art looks wonderful from what I have seen so far and more in line with Action and JL and I really hope DC just allow Scott Lobdell to be brave and go for it. Be nice to hope he and Grant has some dialogue on where they want Superman to go and I hope this reboot wasn't just a "reboot" to get fans on board but then go back to the same old tired story telling of old. Cause they sure will not keep those new or lasped fans and will be back to where they were.
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