EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Azzarello's "Wonder Woman" #10

[Gaelforce]

It depends on your definition of love.

Diana's version of love included everyone, even the worst of us. This idea was part of her mythos for a very long time. Whether you agree with it or not, I think it is great that more components of her history and character might not be getting a revamp.

I love most of what this creative team is doing, but I know of some displeased older fans who read this preview and enjoyed it. Writing the title with newer and older fans in mind is a great idea to me.

This. This is the words I hadn't found yet ;)

Seriously - I see no reason why a writer can't at least make some attempt to appeal to the 25,000+ die hard fans of a book as well as the 25,000 or so new fans. There is no reason to alienate one in order to appease the other, imo. No, you can't make all the people happy all of the time, but I feel that a writer should make *some* attempt to please those who have enjoyed a book prior to his/her coming on board.

It's why I'm having such a hard time with Azzarello and Chiang. Love the art. Love the overall story. Don't like the changes to Diana's world, supporting cast and history and I fully understand why some older fans have abandoned the book altogether.

[HawkBoy]

I really hope WW'S old personalty comes back

[slvn]

I'm glad Eros' guns worked and Wonder Woman didn't have to hang; was this an escape by Diana or Diana saying that Hades will just have to trust that she loves him?

Interesting question. Well, he's already got his proof, so Wonder Woman may need him to prove his trust in some other way. (There'd be something weird about demanding proof that he doesn't need proof--but nothing wrong with a little "paradox," I guess.) Maybe she'll want him to make an irrevocable vow not to harm Zola or her child, showing trust that she's not just playing him to protect them (even though she probably is :) ). He'll probably be all the more interested in her if he has to win her; Kronos suggested that he only really wants what he can't have. Lord Conquest was like that in Marston's WW #2, with the ex-wife of whom Azz's Perspehone reminds me.

SteveGus, I don't mind her needing Lennox's help, as long as it's a collaborative effort and she's not just passively getting rescued Maybe Lennox needs to show her that she can leave without putting Zola back in danger.

[Dr. Hurt]

It depends on your definition of love.

Diana's version of love included everyone, even the worst of us. This idea was part of her mythos for a very long time. Whether you agree with it or not, I think it is great that more components of her history and character might not be getting a revamp.

I love most of what this creative team is doing, but I know of some displeased older fans who read this preview and enjoyed it. Writing the title with newer and older fans in mind is a great idea to me.

It's just that you cant love someone like Luthor. You might want the best for him, you might believe there is hope for him, have compassion for him, but not love him. Otherwise, WW's "love" is a very broad definition of love.

About the preview, why would WW act like that if she's doing all this for Zola? Just shut up and get married, isnt that the plan? Unless she's truly in love.

[sberg1]

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This preview is AWESOME.

I cannot WAIT until Wednesday.

[slvn]

It's just that you cant love someone like Luthor. You might want the best for him, you might believe there is hope for him, have compassion for him, but not love him. Otherwise, WW's "love" is a very broad definition of love.

Definition #1 from The Free Dictionary would do: "A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness."

Luthor's "attractive qualities" might not be enough to outweigh his unattractive qualities, but the "sense of underlying oneness" pretty much covers everybody; we're all human (or gods or demigods, as the case may be :) ).

Wonder Woman doesn't have to be in love with Hades to love him n a "love your neighbor as yourself' kind of way. I know that Johns' "emotional spectrum" separates compassion from love, but Wonder Woman doesn't have to.

I do think she's probably "in love" with him--i.e. she feels strong desire for him--because of the gun, but for the reason MulhollandDriver and GaelForce mention, I kind of hope there's at least some room left for the "she loves everyone" explanation.

About the preview, why would WW act like that if she's doing all this for Zola? Just shut up and get married, isnt that the plan? Unless she's truly in love.

That may be the plan, but that doesn't mean she can tolerate being bound to someone who doesn't trust her, when it come down to it. Everybody has limits, and that's a pretty good one for a feminist icon. Also,l like I was saying above, if she can get him to want to win her over (because, as his father told him, his nature is to want what he can't have), maybe she can get him to make an irreversible vow not to hurt Zola. That way, this would fit into :the plan" very well. But we'll see.

[Chiroptera]

Or there's the idea that she loves everybody a little.

But now I kind of like the idea that the guns did work; she expected Hades to use them on her, and was prepared to make the sacrifice of having to love him; but she's too strong and independent to be bound to someone who doesn't trust her, even if she loves him.

This is my bet for how it will play out too. I think she does love him, but I think she loves everyone, that's part of who she is. But I think the caveat here will be that you can't forge a relationship on love alone. It takes trust, commitment, and connection; love alone isn't enough. That's why she's not bound to him the way he seemed to expect her to be. I think Eros's guns can ignite the spark of love, but it's up to the individuals in the relationship to actually make that spark into a fire... and Hades is just too cold to make it happen.

Whatever happens this was a great scene, I can't wait for this issue!

[Retro315]

But it could just be down to what he finds tasteful.
Like he is a midget, his skin is pale and his head is covered in wax and candles, but he doesnt radiate 'Lord of Death' near to anything like Nekron or Seth does.

Man I'd almost forgotten how many Death aspects DC has. Luckily I see the Olympians as more high-powered magic-using humans than actual God-Beings or Cosmic Entities. Hades is more "lofty necromancer" than Death Incarnate.

But he does have a vibe like he's the first, innocuous form of a Castlevania Boss Fight against Death. "Oh look a creepy child ... Oh no he just morphed into a giant skeleton with a Lantern-scythe!"

[slvn]

I think Eros's guns can ignite the spark of love, but it's up to the individuals in the relationship to actually make that spark into a fire... and Hades is just too cold to make it happen.

Yes, and Diana is too savvy and strong and independent--even under the influence of the guns--to mistake the spark for a warm, healing, sustainable fire.

[CagedLeo730]

Except that the Star Sapphires arent about true love, but the perverted obsessive love. This was just a stupid idea to give some heroes a power ring.

- How about we call our corps for help?
- No man, let's give one temporary ring to random people.
- Who's writing this story? Michael Bay?
- Maybe....

And so WW was a SS and Atom was an Indigo Lantern, who are supposed to be brainwashed criminals btw.

Miri and Carol Ferris have shown that love can be more than obsession. That's why Carol is the strongest of them all. Green Lantern #10 shows that the Indigo Tribe is more complex than brainwashing. It's closer to rehabilitation as Iroque (Indigo-1) actually felt empathy without the ring. Ray Palmer was already compassionate so he didn't need compelling.

[MuhollandDriver]

It's just that you cant love someone like Luthor. You might want the best for him, you might believe there is hope for him, have compassion for him, but not love him. Otherwise, WW's "love" is a very broad definition of love.

About the preview, why would WW act like that if she's doing all this for Zola? Just shut up and get married, isnt that the plan? Unless she's truly in love.

Maybe you can't love someone like Luthor. Maybe many people can't. What you would do isn't what everyone would do. Wonder Woman may have a broad definition of love, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing to me.

[Gaelforce]

It's just that you cant love someone like Luthor. You might want the best for him, you might believe there is hope for him, have compassion for him, but not love him. Otherwise, WW's "love" is a very broad definition of love.

About the preview, why would WW act like that if she's doing all this for Zola? Just shut up and get married, isnt that the plan? Unless she's truly in love.

I'm thinkin' she just wanted her lasso back ;)

[Ebon Phantom]

Great preview. I was honestly not expecting that but the whole breaking free and somersaulting on the horse was cool.

[Outside_85]

That sounds cool! I confess I'm only talking about the hands because I like them. I like the whole getup actually, and I wonder if Carol will put it in the WW Costume Index?

She might, but I think it will only be under the novelty header as I doubt we will be seeing it again after she gets out of it...unless she suddenly has to play Morticia Adams for someone.

[WhitOro]

Why couldn't this guy be the actual fill-in artist from the start?
Looks great to me, can't wait.