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    Quote Originally Posted by gregyo View Post
    That isn't how logic and causation work.


    Yes unfortunately those concepts are lost on the X-fans of this board........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habis View Post
    I think a writer of AvX said in an interview that they are basically themselves, only that their perspective has changed because they know so much more and perceive so much more, and their power has altered their self-image too...

    I would compare them to the High Evolutionary, rather than the Sentry/Void or Xavier/Onslaught or Arcangel/Apocalypsis.
    Actually, it's interesting because Claremont explicity described the experience of being a Phoenix Host kind as different to that of the High Evolutionary. When someone ascends to Godhood in Marvel they lose touch with their humanity, but what seems to be the case is that they are heightened mentally, their intelligence increases. The PF is different, it heightens you emotionally, so Jean Grey couldn't control the PF, and was seeking a cosmic orgasm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Actually, it's interesting because Claremont explicity described the experience of being a Phoenix Host kind as different to that of the High Evolutionary. When someone ascends to Godhood in Marvel they lose touch with their humanity, but what seems to be the case is that they are heightened mentally, their intelligence increases. The PF is different, it heightens you emotionally, so Jean Grey couldn't control the PF, and was seeking a cosmic orgasm.

    Very cool info here. Thanks for posting.

    Here's a question I'm wondering about...if Namor is burning all the time won't that conflict with his living underwater? He'll probably be cast out as some kind of freak by his people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosocialize100 View Post
    Very cool info here. Thanks for posting.

    Here's a question I'm wondering about...if Namor is burning all the time won't that conflict with his living underwater? He'll probably be cast out as some kind of freak by his people.
    As if he'd still be Phoenix Namor after this saga is over....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadXMan View Post
    It's the same as Janet slipping about Wanda's kids in Disassembled.
    Or Emma suggesting to Kill Wanda
    one little thing can send everything into chaos.
    It really depends on how far back you want the cause to go.

    Cyclops never would have left Maddie if he had a stronger male influence in his life.

    Really it's all Corsair's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake V View Post
    It really depends on how far back you want the cause to go.

    Cyclops never would have left Maddie if he had a stronger male influence in his life.

    Really it's all Corsair's fault.

    daddy dosen't love me because he was abducted by Aliens.

    so the bird people are to blame


    And how sad is it that Alex is the most well adjusted of the Summers clan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadXMan View Post

    daddy dosen't love me because he was abducted by Aliens.

    so the bird people are to blame


    And how sad is it that Alex is the most well adjusted of the Summers clan?
    Well adjusted? Have you seen his outfit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadXMan View Post
    Yes unfortunately those concepts are lost on the X-fans of this board........
    Oooh THESE grapes are sour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregyo View Post
    Well adjusted? Have you seen his outfit?
    Fashion taste aside. But given the loons that are his brothers and their spawn.......
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    Can Cyclops really be that clueless? Co-existence is, by definition, not singular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadXMan View Post
    Sure looks like they aren't repopulating their race.....Too busy imposing their will on the earth
    Thats a very interesting statement. Why aren't they repopulating their race? Sure stopping fights and farming crops is awesome, but the whole point is to have more mutants on earth,,,,why are they not bringing forth the mutants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by infernohara View Post
    Thats a very interesting statement. Why aren't they repopulating their race? Sure stopping fights and farming crops is awesome, but the whole point is to have more mutants on earth,,,,why are they not bringing forth the mutants?
    Most likely they can't. Only Hope can do that I think.

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    That doesn't make sense. If they have the phoenix, they should be able to spark life back into the world since they're on a higher plane of existence. They're holding back and hopefully next issue will tell us why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infernohara View Post
    That doesn't make sense. If they have the phoenix, they should be able to spark life back into the world since they're on a higher plane of existence. They're holding back and hopefully next issue will tell us why.
    Hope was essentially designed to break the spell, not just anybody can do it. While incredibly powerful, the Phoenix isn't entirely omnipotent, and magic usually has rules and crap to make this sort of stuff complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lascoden View Post
    Hope was essentially designed to break the spell, not just anybody can do it. While incredibly powerful, the Phoenix isn't entirely omnipotent, and magic usually has rules and crap to make this sort of stuff complicated.
    Sure Hope "broke the spell" according to Unit, but the Phoenix is above all that also according to Unit. It was the phoenix (going strictly by Unit's heresay) that was able to bring forth order in that world. The chosen one merely gathered the components that called it to their planet. So its very much different than Hope "activating" mutants around the planet since Unit's protagonist in his story never did that......which is why his story rings kind of hollow for me.

    Also, just to throw it out there: There was another mutant baby born and it never registered as a light on Hope's radar. Hell, it was all but ignored after a certain purpose was served in X-continuity and thats the child of Rahne Sinclair. This half demi god/ half mutant is still out there and was very much not activated by Hope, so theres something going on here.

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