How to stop the Phoenix Force Five - Suggestions

[DeadXMan]

Two words: Naked Doom

[Habis]

Their is already a mutant, or two of least Odin's power level so I imagine they are quite a bit above that.

Franklin Richards and Mad Jim Jaspers are well above Odin. And above the Phoenix. And above Odin bearing the Phoenix Force...but we aren´t speaking about them now; we are speaking about the Five. I think the whole Phoenix is more or less about the same level as Galactus, who is above Odin (but close enough to give a good fight), but each of the Five holds only a fifth of that power, so I would say that each of them is below Odin´s level of power, but when combined they are about his level of power or maybe only a bit above him.

[celticguy]

Franklin Richards and Mad Jim Jaspers are well above Odin. And above the Phoenix. And above Odin bearing the Phoenix Force...but we aren´t speaking about them now; we are speaking about the Five. I think the whole Phoenix is more or less about the same level as Galactus, who is above Odin (but close enough to give a good fight), but each of the Five holds only a fifth of that power, so I would say that each of them is below Odin´s level of power, but when combined they are about his level of power or maybe only a bit above him.

Plus their own powers and in Peter's case he was already really amped up

[Exo]

He didn't come up with a machine to kill the phoenix or at least one that works.

Well, he had half a day to assemble his phoenix-buster from scratch. Imagine what he could accomplish given a whole day.

[Habis]

Plus their own powers and in Peter's case he was already really amped up

Meh...their own powers are irrelevant; I think the Phoenix has given each of them super-strength, invulnerability, energy projection, telepathy and teleportation far better than the powers they already had; maybe Emma is still a better telepath than Cyclops, and maybe Namor is still stronger than Magik, but you would barely notice it when you are fighting them because, you know, all or them can nuke a planet, so being punched is the least of your worries.

[DeadXMan]

What about the Phionx Gun?

[mikekerrIII]

Franklin Richards and Mad Jim Jaspers are well above Odin. And above the Phoenix. And above Odin bearing the Phoenix Force...but we aren´t speaking about them now; we are speaking about the Five. I think the whole Phoenix is more or less about the same level as Galactus, who is above Odin (but close enough to give a good fight), but each of the Five holds only a fifth of that power, so I would say that each of them is below Odin´s level of power, but when combined they are about his level of power or maybe only a bit above him.

I don't know of Franklin, Legion or Jaspers is above the PF. I know that Galactus has met the PF at least twice and backed down both times. Legion for example is at least three times as powerful Odin but I don't think he is above the PF.

[mikekerrIII]

Well, he had half a day to assemble his phoenix-buster from scratch. Imagine what he could accomplish given a whole day.

A bigger mess is my guess.

[DeadXMan]

A bigger mess is my guess.

How mant people can split a force of nature with an giant Crouch gun?

[mikekerrIII]

How mant people can split a force of nature with an giant Crouch gun?

How many people would think that messing with a force of nature you don't understand is a good thing?

[Exo]

A bigger mess is my guess.

Anything is possible. Personally I don't think there'd be much left of the Phoenix to clean up afterwards.

[Starfish]

Anything is possible. Personally I don't think there'd be much left of the Phoenix to clean up afterwards.

One can only hope. I think we've had enough of this inconsistent plot device already, so I wouldn't mind to see it gone for good by the end of this story, never to be seen or mentioned again.

[Habis]

I don't know of Franklin, Legion or Jaspers is above the PF. I know that Galactus has met the PF at least twice and backed down both times.

Galactus has a healthy instinct of self-preservation, something most of the people that become superheroes lacks (Rachel, for example). I think any could destroy the other, but while Rachel/the Phoenix was willing to take a 50 % chance of destruction, Galactus wasn´t willing to do so.

Legion for example is at least three times as powerful Odin but I don't think he is above the PF.

I don´t think that every Elder God is as powerful as Odin. The Elder Gods are called that way because they are ancient, but they aren´t all-powerful. Tsathoggua and Omn were weak enought that Conan could fight them; Borri had to escape from a bunch of Disir, which were weak enough to be enslaved by Loki and Mephisto or driven away by Hela; Dagon had only strength class 50 and Gilgamesh could fight him; Pazuzu was quite weaker than Mephisto...etc.

And yes, I know not all those are siblings of Gaia, Cthon and Seth; but I don´t think it was explicitly said that the gods Legion destroyed were siblings of Cthon either.

[lowfyr]

If Xavier ends up siding with the Avengers, and they can get Reed, then I think bringing together the Illuminati and busting out the Infinity Gems would work.

Even if they're one gem short because they lack Namors (I think he's got either time or space... I forget), the other five should back enough punch to handle the Phoenix Five.

That would only work if the Gems could be used together again. And if they forget the gems anytime a great threat appears(Fear itself) i wouldn't bet on the Gems being used.

[Lascoden]

One can only hope. I think we've had enough of this inconsistent plot device already, so I wouldn't mind to see it gone for good by the end of this story, never to be seen or mentioned again.

Something called "the Phoenix" is never gonna stay down permanently.