Four more new titles in September, but wait, no new superman book!?

[stephens2177]

Sorry that idea of a random.kryptonian will never fly,you need a SUPER with some name recognition,or superman himself.other than him,the only book that would really sell would be a book with all the members of the superman family,kinda a main earth grown up version of the superman family adventure book.

[OBrianTallent]

I've been waiting for years for someone to get some sense and give Lois Lane her own series again.

Also of note...Jesus Merino is no longer the artist for Superman. Wonder who they will be putting on that book?

[Sacred Knight]

In regards to the Superman family not really being a family, we have to be fair in regards to Supergirl and Superboy's origins in this relaunch. In the present day DCU, they've only just arrived. So its not really comparable with Batman, who's already developed relationships with Dick, Jason, Tim, Barbara, etc, because none of them received new origins. They've been around for the bulk of that 5 year window. As it stands now, its completely understandable that there's no relationship between Superman and his cousin and clone yet. But I'm sure it'll get there eventually.

[Ice Wolf]

In regards to the Superman family not really being a family, we have to be fair in regards to Supergirl and Superboy's origins in this relaunch. In the present day DCU, they've only just arrived. So its not really comparable with Batman, who's already developed relationships with Dick, Jason, Tim, Barbara, etc, because none of them received new origins. They've been around for the bulk of that 5 year window. As it stands now, its completely understandable that there's no relationship between Superman and his cousin and clone yet. But I'm sure it'll get there eventually.

The real problem is that the DCnu reboot screwed up when it came to the Superman family of comics by not having a cohesive plan. Each character seems to have been created independently with no thought as to how they fit within the superman family.

In some ways they didn't go far enough with the reboot. Byrnes Man of Steel rebbot was much more successful in rebooting a franchise because of the way it was done, it laid the ground work for what would come after.

They should have started with a Mini-Series covering Supermans origin and some key events of his early career setting up the background for the ongoings.

Then launched with just the 2 main titles Action Comics and Superman.

They should then have launched the other characters with storylines in the main comics.

Say 6 months after the new ongoings launched Supergirl gets her ongoing.

Superboy needed to be introduced in the main titles first, I would have have a storyline in Superman focusing on Project Cadmus which would have led to Superboy being created and eventual ongoing.

[Mr. Holmes]

The real problem is that the DCnu reboot screwed up when it came to the Superman family of comics by not having a cohesive plan. Each character seems to have been created independently with no thought as to how they fit within the superman family.

You don't know that. Superman hasn't met up with them because they want to develop the characters individually before having them all meet. Agree or not, there is thought in that plan.

In some ways they didn't go far enough with the reboot. Byrnes Man of Steel rebbot was much more successful in rebooting a franchise because of the way it was done, it laid the ground work for what would come after.

If it was so successful, they wouldn't have constantly changed his origins, including the most recent one. Batman Year One is still regarded as the official origin (got adapted to a movie recently) and it came out the same time as MoS.

They should have started with a Mini-Series covering Supermans origin and some key events of his early career setting up the background for the ongoings.

No they shouldn't have, because not everyone is interested in reading that. The point of the relaunch is to hit the ground telling stories outsiders are interested in reading. Besides, the Action co-feature already kind of does this.

[AndItsOn!]

Sorry that idea of a random.kryptonian will never fly,you need a SUPER with some name recognition,or superman himself.other than him,the only book that would really sell would be a book with all the members of the superman family,kinda a main earth grown up version of the superman family adventure book.

Basically, that's exactly what I thought. I don't want this kryptonian has any power yet, and the very fact that this guy doesn't have power would surely make the adventures even more existing. Also, we could let this guy have more indirect relation with superman other than just a random guy. When I think about this story I actually think of it based on "the third kryptonian" storyline back in 2006 or so. Krypon expanded its territory to other places in the universe and some of those guys out there conquering the worlds thus survived the apocalypse. We could also do something like that in DCnU. To make it even more intriguing, this kryptonian guy's identity could be varied into many versions to seek the most suitable one in the story. I don't know, if there is ever a book like this, I would be stoked for sure...since it will reveal whole lots of things regarding krypton, which we simply didn't know much about in the past decades. Actually, new krypton is a good one, but I personally think it done poorly in terms of what I thought about this. That's why I say it could be great IF done right.

[AndItsOn!]

I've been waiting for years for someone to get some sense and give Lois Lane her own series again.

Also of note...Jesus Merino is no longer the artist for Superman. Wonder who they will be putting on that book?

Lois Lane...sure, sorry that one slipped out of my mind for a moment. That would be great. I really liked that interlude story in grouded story arc regarding how lois feels about her life with superman. Pure genius

[Fate's Faith]

When I think about it, I think there is a matter of history here. batman's history basically remains intact and thus all the bonds these characters had in the old universe with batman they still have it now. But superman's family has been rebooted almost from the very beginning, so this kind of isolation is inevitable. Back in the old universe, superman has this equal influence to his spin-off characters to batman's his spin-off characters.

Granted. Its just that they seem to go out of their way to keep these characters separate and when any interact with another, its just to fight then go about their business. Going back, I don't think anyone would say Superman is apathetic to his cousin landing on earth but that's exactly what he is here. I don't think he's even mentioned the event happening in his own titles, has he?

I've been waiting for years for someone to get some sense and give Lois Lane her own series again.

Agreed!

In regards to the Superman family not really being a family, we have to be fair in regards to Supergirl and Superboy's origins in this relaunch. In the present day DCU, they've only just arrived. So its not really comparable with Batman, who's already developed relationships with Dick, Jason, Tim, Barbara, etc, because none of them received new origins. They've been around for the bulk of that 5 year window. As it stands now, its completely understandable that there's no relationship between Superman and his cousin and clone yet. But I'm sure it'll get there eventually.

I'm not trying to be unfair. Certainly there is the just happening aspect for both spinoffs. But I'm not sure that they will get there. Certainly the events in Superboy have kept him too busy to even look into this 'donar' and Supergirl arriving being unsure of what's happened to her. But that's why building the bonds between these characters is so important. They don't exist because of Superman (well, Superboy a little) the same way Dick, Jason, Tim, and Barbara do. But we have some actual family here. Kara is Kal's cousin. Superboy, who really needs a name, is something like a 'son'. Being interdependent is an asset not some huge shadow the two have to overcome.

Now I understand Supergirl will be meeting up with Superman soon without a fight breaking out. And I'm sure now that NOWHERE is done, Superboy will also have the chance. But its really hard to believe that the whole world looks up to Superman and his two family members not only don't look up to him but actively aren't interested in meeting him.

[AndItsOn!]

Granted. Its just that they seem to go out of their way to keep these characters separate and when any interact with another, its just to fight then go about their business. Going back, I don't think anyone would say Superman is apathetic to his cousin landing on earth but that's exactly what he is here. I don't think he's even mentioned the event happening in his own titles, has he?

Agreed!



I'm not trying to be unfair. Certainly there is the just happening aspect for both spinoffs. But I'm not sure that they will get there. Certainly the events in Superboy have kept him too busy to even look into this 'donar' and Supergirl arriving being unsure of what's happened to her. But that's why building the bonds between these characters is so important. They don't exist because of Superman (well, Superboy a little) the same way Dick, Jason, Tim, and Barbara do. But we have some actual family here. Kara is Kal's cousin. Superboy, who really needs a name, is something like a 'son'. Being interdependent is an asset not some huge shadow the two have to overcome.

Now I understand Supergirl will be meeting up with Superman soon without a fight breaking out. And I'm sure now that NOWHERE is done, Superboy will also have the chance. But its really hard to believe that the whole world looks up to Superman and his two family members not only don't look up to him but actively aren't interested in meeting him.

I do agree with you on the relationship between supergirl and superman in DCnU. I don't understand why superman seems to be not interested in taking care of his cousin at all. I guess that has something to do with Dan Didio's decision actually. He said several times that he or DC doesn't want supergirl just to be superman's cousin. They want her to be a stand-alone character instead. But I guess it's just their wishful thinking...we do want them to be close and a family again!
Also, there is the issue with superboy. This whole teen titans and the culling just screwed up everything wiht superboy...they should let superboy have more relation to superman first and then establish his relation with teen titans, but since the relauch DC has been playing mystery with superboy's new origin, I guess they just don't want to let superboy meet his "father" just yet...speaking of which, what happened to that summer event of superman family guys from DC had been talking about????

[Flash Gordon]

There is a new Superman book that just came out last month:

Forgot to pick this up! Damn, it looks like so much fun. Have you read it yet Hoy?

Also of note...Jesus Merino is no longer the artist for Superman. Wonder who they will be putting on that book?

Considering the fact that Scott Lobbell is writing it, I'm going to guess someone with similar talents? Maybe Liefield? A SUPERMAN title by Lobell and Liefield would be so EXTREME, yeah!

Sad part is, I'm probably right.

[RoughNTumble]

Forgot to pick this up! Damn, it looks like so much fun. Have you read it yet Hoy?



Considering the fact that Scott Lobbell is writing it, I'm going to guess someone with similar talents? Maybe Liefield? A SUPERMAN title by Lobell and Liefield would be so EXTREME, yeah!

Sad part is, I'm probably right.

if the trend continues, liefelds books will be cancelled on monday and he will be given nine new ones, probably including superman

[MajorHoy]

Forgot to pick this up! Damn, it looks like so much fun. Have you read it yet Hoy?

It's a bit silly . . . maybe even a little stupid . . . but it's got charm and loads of F-U-N!

A great alternative to some of the mediocre Superman stuff we still keep getting foisted upon us.

[superchick]

They should treat the Superman titles like they do the Batman titles. Even if you don't read Batman, he matters to all the characters in his line in some fashion. But Supergirl is avoiding him. Superboy is tied to him only on a cellular level. There's no real family there. If Superman died (again), those two characters would hardly be affected by it. If Batman died, he's death would affect almost every single character in his line. Superman doesn't really have a line... he's part of a group that has Super in their title.

Problem, most Supergirl fans dont want Superman as a lingering presence. He has a tendency to consume other characters mainly because writers are never able to tone him down in comparison to the lead.

[AndItsOn!]

Problem, most Supergirl fans dont want Superman as a lingering presence. He has a tendency to consume other characters mainly because writers are never able to tone him down in comparison to the lead.

Hi superchick, where is that photo you are using from? Looks very cool!

[superchick]

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