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  • 5 OF 5 - MASTERPEICE

    7 6.42%
  • 4 OF 5 - GREAT

    45 41.28%
  • 3 OF 5 - GOOD

    30 27.52%
  • 2 OF 5 - OK

    17 15.60%
  • 1 OF 5 - BAD

    8 7.34%
  • 0 OF 5 - HORRIBLE

    2 1.83%
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    I've enjoyed reading all the posts and varied opinions and thoughts about Prometheus. I think the movie is successful on many levels, in spite of the criticisms leveled. To me, it is essentially a horror movie in homage to H.P. Lovecraft; cosmic horror for the big screen (Cosmicism). I think having the engineers be humanoid in form brings a sense of terror to the viewer. They are weird and foreign, but yet familiar. I really like Alien and Aliens, but it was easier for me to watch those movies with suspended belief. Prometheus creeped me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Sure. But what kind of crappy scientist takes an incredibly rare specimen of alien tissue and starts doing reckless weird science with it? Science actually means something. You have a test group or at least a test subject, and then a control group or subject. You treat both the same during the baseline phase of the experiment and then you subject the test subject/group to condition or procedure, in an effort to test a hypothesis that is part of a theory. You don't just do weird stuff to your only sample and then make up theories after the fact, because that isn't science. It really isn't science. So again, how are we supposed to take her seriously as a scientist when she acts like a capricious child?
    I still can't figure out the entire purpose of that little experiment...

    Were they going to be able to make it speak?
    Bad news everyone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Sure. But what kind of crappy scientist takes an incredibly rare specimen of alien tissue and starts doing reckless weird science with it? Science actually means something. You have a test group or at least a test subject, and then a control group or subject. You treat both the same during the baseline phase of the experiment and then you subject the test subject/group to condition or procedure, in an effort to test a hypothesis that is part of a theory. You don't just do weird stuff to your only sample and then make up theories after the fact, because that isn't science. It really isn't science. So again, how are we supposed to take her seriously as a scientist when she acts like a capricious child?
    I admit, I was a little surprised at the scientific method used by these scientists. It did seem a bit slap dash I wouldn't want to be an apologist for this kind of scientific method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonimator View Post
    It's true! The real space jockeys ARE larger, and are elephant-like. The Engineers were their creation, their perfect creation ala the Guardians of the Universe's Manhunter robots. Only the Engineers, a genetically engineered clone race, turned on their creators with bio-weapons, destroying them (after creating spacesuits reminiscent of their creators, of course). They then began experimenting with creating life of their own, leading into the events of 'Prometheus'.
    Where are you getting these other facts from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toonimator View Post
    Or, no... the 'Alien' jockey is meant to be the same size as the Engineers of 'Prometheus'. If there is a size discrepancy, it's fairly minor and unintentional.
    Then you change your approach?

    I thought the space jockeys were the Engineers, and the "elephant look" was just the space suit.
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    The movie was fine, but not great. It was very good Chariot of the Gods spawned Sci-Fi, but the character stories were not all that compelling, and it really did not belong in the Alien franchise, in spite of its efforts to contribute to it.

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    A core element of what made the Alien franchise was a direct conflict between species. The horror in the first two Alien films arose not only from the gruesomeness of the xenomorph, but from the idea that our species was being consumed by another. That really wasn't here. The feel was less of a threat from an extraterrestrial being, than from an alien disease. The threat did not take on a persona until near the end, and that threat was so divorced from what had gone before, it was hard to see it as the a contest between the central races.

    I think this film would have been better had they not tried to make an Alien prequel of it. It likely could have stood ably on its own. Of course, whadda I know? It's making $s.

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    I thought it was great. I think Ridley Scott captured the feelings of his 1st Alien film and did it in a way to make us all guess. How many were thinking at points this character or that one would become the Alien ? Or have it bust through a chest as we all love. Yet he kept that til the very end.

    It was a great way to reboot the Alien franchise after years of it being gone.
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    My vote, 2 of 5, merely OK. My review, short and sweet: Beautiful, luscious, and kinda boring, with some pretty big plot holes.

    Recommendation: go see it on the big screen, the cinematography alone is worth it. But don't expect anything approaching Alien.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    Where are you getting these other facts from?

    Then you change your approach?

    I thought the space jockeys were the Engineers, and the "elephant look" was just the space suit.
    Apparently my joking around was lost on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonimator View Post
    It's true! The real space jockeys ARE larger, and are elephant-like. The Engineers were their creation, their perfect creation ala the Guardians of the Universe's Manhunter robots. Only the Engineers, a genetically engineered clone race, turned on their creators with bio-weapons, destroying them (after creating spacesuits reminiscent of their creators, of course). They then began experimenting with creating life of their own, leading into the events of 'Prometheus'.
    i like it you need to go work on Prometheus 2 The Engineers maybe clones designed for some purpose by the jockeys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuphemismForSex View Post
    I still can't figure out the entire purpose of that little experiment...

    Were they going to be able to make it speak?
    And what would it say? I'm dead? (In English, of course.)

    Now that I think about it, the purpose of that scene was to imitate a much better scene in the original Alien movie, when they re-activate Ash's head so they can ask him some questions.
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    4 of 5. Great, but not masterpeice.

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    I've only seen Alien, none of the other films, although I will be watching them soon as I picked them up on the way back from the cinema cos I thought Prometheus was great! I watched Alien recently for the first time and I thought this had a lot of the feel of that film, despite the huge amount of time between them, and a lot of interesting elements to it. The Fassbender character was particularly good for me. spoilers:
    I feel like the other characters were somewhat talking down to him, particularly the male scientist, but I think he had a lot better grasp of emotion than they thought. Maybe he didn't FEEL emotion like a human, but I think there's some meaning to him imitating the characters in those films he enjoys (enjoys, yknow... like a human) and he might perhaps be using his advanced "brain" to imitate emotion, or create himself a set of emotional rules that's on the way to being on a par with human emotion
    end of spoilers but maybe that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonimator View Post
    Apparently my joking around was lost on you.
    Apparently. It was nice though.
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    I was entertained. It wasn't perfect and a lot of the writing was sloppy or simply unexplained and it jumped around a lot at the end. However, I was entertained. The older I get that's really all I ask. So often I am not entertained by movies, I'm pretty happy when that does happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    And what would it say? I'm dead? (In English, of course.)

    Now that I think about it, the purpose of that scene was to imitate a much better scene in the original Alien movie, when they re-activate Ash's head so they can ask him some questions.
    they said something about something-spores being in transition. They wanted to see what was happening to it when it died.

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    I remember how the Captain had uh, time with Vickers. They left during the sandstorm, and couldn't find their way out without the Captain's help.

    Anyways,

    Alien: 4.5/5
    Aliens: 2.5/5
    Alien 3: 4/5
    Alien Resurrection: ?/5
    AVP:?
    AVPR:?
    Predator:4.5/5
    Predator 2:?
    Predators: 4/5

    Prometheus:5/5

    Intelligent and philosophical, it asks questions about our humanity and combines horror with adventure and great characters. I loved it.
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