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  • Cyke, the one eyed bird man

    49 42.98%
  • Emma, is this her best revenge?

    5 4.39%
  • Colossus, make Cytorak proud (after pissing him off)

    9 7.89%
  • Magik, darkchild, dark phoenix, what's the difference?

    14 12.28%
  • Namor, discovers fire and water don't work so well together

    16 14.04%
  • Jean, the real deal's gonna come and kill em alll

    21 18.42%
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    It amuses me how hysterical some of the coments are . I mean , the P5 haven´t done anthing yet , but some people already supervillian or fascist .

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    Is there any other point to Magik besides her potential for duplicity? I'm not here to marvel at the sheer audacity of her outdated heavy bangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Sonic View Post
    Yeah, it's a tough one. But there are still plenty of racists out there worried about genetic purity and all that drivel.
    Those folks becoming extinct by old age is not all that worrisome a problem. That has mostly happened in the US already with folks who think they have a right to own people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanji View Post
    Everything he's done since now has been reasonable. He had to make tough calls and they weren't always the best, but nobody else wanted the burden and someone had to step up if they wanted to survive. Cyclops doesn't want mutants to rule the world, he wants the dream. You can't have the dream without mutants.
    The dream was retconned in Prelude to Schism: Xavier. Turns out the dream has always been separate but equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanji View Post
    I never understood why that was a problem for anybody. They're not an invading alien race, they're their children. It's like saying we'll be all taller, or mixed-raced, in the future. It's not the end of humanity, it's its newest chapter.
    Well, there is the fact that at least half of the mutants have some deformity or handicap, and of those, four of every five have shitty powers that don�t compensate said handicap or deformity (Glob Hermann, Beak, Ernst, Johnny Dee) so their human parents would see them as diseased and seek a cure, which would put them at odds with the X-men and most other organized mutant groups, who reject a "cure" even for the most handicapped of mutants.

    Then there is the fact that there are people like Magneto or Apocalypse trying to speed the process of evolution enslaving or destroy Humanity, so naturally people react to them as they would to any crazy tyrant who tries to destroys them and their families. Nazis where human, but we don�t like their ideas and we wouldn�t like the ideas or mutants supremacist either.

    Then there is the fact that even if humans can intelectually accept that their great-grandchildren will be mutants, that offers a very little consolation to the fact that, if Magneto wins, you, your children and grand-children will be second rate citizens.

    Then there is the fact that the predominant mutant "culture", represented by both the X-men and Magneto goes out of their way to explain how they are not human but a separated new species, and both humans and mutants often buy that and see themselves as separate entities competing for the same space.

    Then there is the fact that it�s hinted at "Days of a Future Past" that not everybody is going to have mutant children; there are a lot of people, maybe the majority, that can only have human children, so, if mutants and humans segregate themselves because of the ideas of people like Magneto or Apocalypse or even Cyclops, you will eventually have a group of humans that only give birth to human children, and a group of mutants that only will give birth to mutant children, and if those don�t integrate somewhat, one will end destroying the other.

    Today�s latin americans are mostly half europeans and half native americans, but if you had told the mayans of aztecs "your culture and civilization is going to be destroyed and you are going to be enslaved, but don�t worry, your descendants will eventually merge with your oppresors and become part of them" they would still be unhappy about their conquest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habis View Post
    Today�s latin americans are mostly half europeans and half native americans, but if you had told the mayans of aztecs "your culture and civilization is going to be destroyed and you are going to be enslaved, but don�t worry, your descendants will eventually merge with your oppresors and become part of them" they would still be unhappy about their conquest
    But this is not at all what's happening. People are getting taller. That's all. And if they get too tall to quickly, you don't find a cure to make them shorter, you build higher doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanji View Post
    But this is not at all what's happening. People are getting taller. That's all. And if they get too tall to quickly, you don't find a cure to make them shorter, you build higher doors.
    That is what would happen if Apocalypse or Magneto wins, and they made it sure that everybody in the planet knew; when Magneto created his "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" he made sure that everybody learned about the existance of mutants and associated them with a group of racist tyrants, and then people like Bolivar Trask got scared and created the Sentinels...

    Magneto behaves like many real-life terrorists: His following depends on the mutants feeling rejected and oppressed, so he does his best to attract the hate of Humanity so the mutants are oppresed, which in turn increases his following making him more powerful (what do you think the Twin Towers attack was about?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habis View Post
    That is what would happen if Apocalypse or Magneto wins.
    No it's not. Humans will die out. That's a fact (well it was until HoM anyway and it will again if the situation is ever restored to what it was) but it doesn't give you the right to kill every humans. That's where Magento is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanji View Post
    No it's not. Humans will die out. That's a fact (well it was until HoM anyway and it will again if the situation is ever restored to what it was) but it doesn't give you the right to kill every humans. That's where Magento is wrong.
    What I meant is "That is what would happen (something similar to the conquest of America by the europeans) if Apocalyse or Magneto wins, and they made it sure that everybody in the planet knew".

    People learned about the crazy guy with the bucket helmet and the magnetic powers who kidnapped UN ambassadors, stole nukes and made coups at latin american countries even before they really knew what a "mutant" was, and they are shitscared of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habis View Post
    Well, there is the fact that at least half of the mutants have some deformity or handicap, and of those, four of every five have shitty powers that don�t compensate said handicap or deformity (Glob Hermann, Beak, Ernst, Johnny Dee) so their human parents would see them as diseased and seek a cure, which would put them at odds with the X-men and most other organized mutant groups, who reject a "cure" even for the most handicapped of mutants.
    If the mutant gene is re-activated eventually everyone on Earth will be a mutant (or meta-human maybe both) and if people realized that mutants aren't a separate race but just humanity with some bits on the side then you would have mutants with the ability to remove physical deformities working out of clinics as they wouldn't feel the need to go into hiding.

    Beast would be the most famous example of a mutant with a physical deformity but one that he should easily be able to get rid of with the technology he has at hand but having the face of the cowardly lion and the same barber as Grover are major aspects of his character. It should have been well within Cyclop's power to run around without his visor but even cosmic forces can't permanently change iconic aspects like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterSinister View Post
    If the mutant gene is re-activated eventually everyone on Earth will be a mutant (or meta-human maybe both) and if people realized that mutants aren't a separate race but just humanity with some bits on the side then you would have mutants with the ability to remove physical deformities working out of clinics as they wouldn't feel the need to go into hiding.
    In the VERY long run things would be like that, but right know, even mutant superheroes have trouble finding somebody able to fix them. Right now the only mutants I can think able to change the appearance of other people are Mask (who was a bitter, resentful, hateful man who refused to fix the other Morlocks because if he couldn´t fix himself, he wouldn´t fix anybody else) and Lionel Jeffries, who was a dementend villain who used every superhuman who demanded his services as pawns.

    Quote Originally Posted by DexterSinister View Post
    Beast would be the most famous example of a mutant with a physical deformity but one that he should easily be able to get rid of with the technology he has at hand but having the face of the cowardly lion and the same barber as Grover are major aspects of his character. It should have been well within Cyclop's power to run around without his visor but even cosmic forces can't permanently change iconic aspects like that.
    After all the trouble he got himself into due to messing with his own DNA (becoming a blue monkey man, becoming stupid...etc.) I think Hank would think it twice before doing something like that again. I think he would change himself back to a more humanoid form (probably back to a fully human one) if he found a way to do so without altering his DNA; he expressed regret over his latest changes, and told Jean Grey he was afraid of eventually getting a fully animal body, to a point he was tempted of using the Hope Serum on himself and becoming human to avoid that.

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    There was an article in Time Magazine a few years back which was essentially speculation about the future of human ethnicity. The authors suggested that we are headed toward an amalgamation, that our children's children's children will appear as a combination of all races. To me, it was a rather fetching image and I wouldn't mind looking like that right now - but it elicited anger and outrage from many groups of peoples; white pride weirdos who didn't want their 'purity' besmirched and black and Latino factions worried that their cultural heritages would be similarly assimilated.
    This sort of sentiment seems to exist three to four fold in the fictional Marvel Universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habis View Post
    After all the trouble he got himself into due to messing with his own DNA (becoming a blue monkey man, becoming stupid...etc.) I think Hank would think it twice before doing something like that again. I think he would change himself back to a more humanoid form (probably back to a fully human one) if he found a way to do so without altering his DNA; he expressed regret over his latest changes, and told Jean Grey he was afraid of eventually getting a fully animal body, to a point he was tempted of using the Hope Serum on himself and becoming human to avoid that.
    I've said before that all beast needs to do is have the hair follicles covering his body removed which we are capable of now and get Marvel Earth level constructive surgery for his face which many a character has had done for the purpose of disguise, after all that he still retains his strength and agility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
    Namor is weakest so he obviously loses his shit first. I hope Storm puts him down for good.
    Maybe Storm ends up helping Namor overcome his weakness and/or releasing the Phoenix so he can be himself again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goatherder View Post
    Cyclops will definitely turn to the dark side. The others can go either way.

    I also predict Cyke will die, which I'm sure will make a whole lot of people happy.

    Mags will take over.
    You use the word "definitely" like you have the inside scoop on this. I predict that Wolverine and Beast will die. They will be grabbed by the Phoenix 5 and each of the phoenixes will grab a limb and then pull each of those bozos apart. We will have a parting scene where Brand will be cuddling Beast's severed head - she'll be on her knees, Beast's head in her lap, and her screaming at the sky.

    Mags will actually admit he's a closeted homosexual and call Rogue his "gurlfriend".

    See? Anyone can come up with a prediction.

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