Warner Bros. Finds "Justice League" Screenplay Writer

[pariah-1972]

For real. They are acting like Marvel hasn't made their share of stinkers before they struck gold with Avengers.

They had lots of stinkers before that too.

[pariah-1972]

Probably works in their favor. You don't need to spend that much time explaining who Batman and Superman are. No matter who is playing them they are instantly recognizable.

That's why they are so iconic.

[GRANT!]

That's why they are so iconic.

And the problem with that is...?

[Treqqor]

At the same time, we've had tons of comics with both Superman and Batman in the league that have worked just fine. Plus, the average movie goer probably isn't familiar with the versions of the JLA that lack Supes or Bats.

The Average movie goer is going to see the trailer and wonder why Robert Downey Jr isn't on the team being funny.

[SpideyClone]

Superman and Batman need to be in the Justice League movie. As it is a good part of the movie would have to be dedicated to creating the context that will bring the characters together for whatever threat they will have to face. Having Superman and Batman (and I guess GL to a degree) already established in the public's consciousness will hopefully mean less time on the "origin" and more time for the action....just saying...

[Deep_Sleeper]

Like i said elsewhere it would be better if we just don't include Superman and Batman at this stage they are just too damn big and iconic to work in this context.

WOW! You know what...I like this idea. I think WB could work with something like that. A JLA movie without Superman and Batman. They introduce a few characters. Wonder Woman being the lead. They'll need to cast someone perfect for the role of Wonder Woman. Have her team up with the likes of Flash, Martian Manhunter and maybe Green Arrow (maybe even bring in the actor from the show) and make an awesome movie.

Then...towards the end, have Henry Cavill in the Superman suit and the new Batman show up to join the team. It could be a moderate level production without the big two characters and then the next movie would just explode in the box office.

That's a pretty solid idea.

[Mr_Wayne]

Are you kidding? Done right, a JLA movie could eclipse the Avengers. A movie with JUST Batman and Superman in it could eclipse the Avengers, never mind a team of even more characters.

EXACTLY!!! The comments in this thread are hilarious. These were the same people arguing that all Marvel made was bad movies. Marvel was practically unheard of until Iron Man became a hit. Everyone has their share of hits and misses. How about people stop pretending like WB/DC has no chance of creating a successful movie. If I were WB/DC I'd just make a Batman/Superman movie to start things off with. That would KILL in the box office. And everyone here complaining would be right there in line next to me ushering it to a billion.

[kmeyers]

They had lots of stinkers before that too.

What stinkers?

Marvel Studios started with Iron Man. Any Marvel properties before that weren't really just Marvel Studios. Theyve only done Iron Man 1 and 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, and now Avengers. I wouldn't consider ANY of those flops or stinkers. Sure some are better than others, but there have not been any bombs yet.

[Mr_Wayne]

What stinkers?

Marvel Studios started with Iron Man. Any Marvel properties before that weren't really just Marvel Studios. Theyve only done Iron Man 1 and 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, and now Avengers. I wouldn't consider ANY of those flops or stinkers. Sure some are better than others, but there have not been any bombs yet.

So you're not counting any Marvel films before Marvel Studios? No X-Men? No Spider-Man? Please... It was MARVEL characters so it's MARVEL. We gonna get all "suit" every time we discuss films now? Haha.

[Jordanstine]

So you're not counting any Marvel films before Marvel Studios? No X-Men? No Spider-Man? Please... It was MARVEL characters so it's MARVEL. We gonna get all "suit" every time we discuss films now? Haha.

Let's just take this metaphor:

Alan Moore = Marvel Studios
Watchmen = movies made by Marvel Studios
Before Watchmen = movies made by Fox or Sony

Let's just say I personally am not counting "Before Watchman" as part of the real Allan Moore's Watchman series.

[kmeyers]

So you're not counting any Marvel films before Marvel Studios? No X-Men? No Spider-Man? Please... It was MARVEL characters so it's MARVEL. We gonna get all "suit" every time we discuss films now? Haha.

Actually yeah. Because with X-Men, Spider-Man and all the rest, Marvel had much less creative control over those characters in those movies. There's a reason Marvel can't have Wolverine, Spider-Man, FF, etc in their current Marvel Universe. It's because they don't own control over those properties anymore(and probably never will again).

[Kurosawa]

No chance this gets done right. If it's anything like the current Johns/Lee series it will be pure garbage. Heroes meet, bicker, fight, join together to fight the menace=Avengers. If DC were going to be themselves-something they haven't been for years in the comics-then the heroes would act more like, well, heroes, and less like Marvel Comics brats. I don't wanna see a wannabe Avengers with DC palette swaps. That's what Green Lantern was.

[Legato]

No chance this gets done right. If it's anything like the current Johns/Lee series it will be pure garbage. Heroes meet, bicker, fight, join together to fight the menace=Avengers. If DC were going to be themselves-something they haven't been for years in the comics-then the heroes would act more like, well, heroes, and less like Marvel Comics brats. I don't wanna see a wannabe Avengers with DC palette swaps. That's what Green Lantern was.

It's true. Comic fans can be unpleasing

[Mr_Wayne]

Let's just take this metaphor:

Alan Moore = Marvel Studios
Watchmen = movies made by Marvel Studios
Before Watchmen = movies made by Fox or Sony

Let's just say I personally am not counting "Before Watchman" as part of the real Allan Moore's Watchman series.

Actually yeah. Because with X-Men, Spider-Man and all the rest, Marvel had much less creative control over those characters in those movies. There's a reason Marvel can't have Wolverine, Spider-Man, FF, etc in their current Marvel Universe. It's because they don't own control over those properties anymore(and probably never will again).

I get everything the both of you just said and I see what you mean (and by the way I already knew about the licencing etc). At the end of the day though, it doesn't matter what either of us think. There are DC films that WB didn't distribute and they're STILL DC films. Same goes for Marvel.

Bottom line, no matter what we think or what our opinion is if it's a Marvel character it's a Marvel movie. You can't go to Marvel Studio's and tell them (or Stan Lee who's cameo-ed in THEM ALL, even the "stinkers") that those weren't Marvel films. Amazing Spider-Man has a Marvel logo flash before it and it's still owned by Sony. So it's not a Marvel film?

You guys trying to get behind the good of Marvel and not the bad... it's OK. I see you. ;)

P.S. here's a secret, the average movie goer doesn't know nor do they care about the difference between Marvel and DC or WB and Marvel Studios. I've heard everything from "Where's Superman?" to "Why isn't Batman in this movie?" when it comes to Marvel films. When it's all said and done, to the VAST majority of people (even though fanboys would love to think that they take up the majority of Earths populace) a comic book movie is a comic book movie and Batman and Iron Man are neighbors that have a who-can-pick-up-the-most-chicks contest after "work". No one really cares about the "universe"/Studio aspect of the movies (except for the obvious people).

[Mr_Wayne]

No chance this gets done right. If it's anything like the current Johns/Lee series it will be pure garbage. Heroes meet, bicker, fight, join together to fight the menace=Avengers. If DC were going to be themselves-something they haven't been for years in the comics-then the heroes would act more like, well, heroes, and less like Marvel Comics brats. I don't wanna see a wannabe Avengers with DC palette swaps. That's what Green Lantern was.

Good points.