Jim Lee Leaving Justice League?

[Lexrules]

how on this freaking earth did it hurt batmans character???????????????

Took away his friendship with Superman which was a vital part of the character for many years. Made him over dark and the fact he trust no one not even his own family members to the point he pushed them away.

Id take the Caper Crusader over The Dark Knight anyday.

[Buried Alien]

I thought the Dark Knight Returns was ok in a elseworlds sort of way but the after effects of it were pretty horrid. I mean I'm not a fan of Batman anyway but it's total effect on the whole industry was pretty grim.

The first ten years after TDKR were actually quite good. I think the "new" Batman was indeed fresh and different for the remainder of the 1980s and the early 1990s. By the mid-1990s, however, it had become a stale rut, and it was time to go in a different direction.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Flashpoint]

Candidates for Justice League artist that I would like to see:

*Oliver Coipel - this would mean Coipel is reunited with Geoff Johns 10 years after their initial work on Avengers. Would also be a nice way for DC to proffer an olive branch to Coipel after their acrimonious split when he left Legion Of Super-Heroes to work at Marvel.

*Marc Silvestri - A Johns/Silvestri Justice League would be huge for many reasons, not the least of which would be that Silvestri's joining DC would mean the reunion of Image founders Lee, Liefeld and Silvestri at DC Comics. Press coverage could be even bigger than it was for the announcement of Lee on Justice League.

*Salvador Larroca - A longshot and Larroca hasn't been as big as he used to be in many years. But he's never worked for DC as far as I know and his work is superb. I'd love to see him on the book.

*Phil Jimenez - I'd love to see this happen. A Johns/Jimenez Justice League would be obscenely gorgeous and incredibly entertaining. But like Larroca, I doubt it'll happen.

*Steve McNiven - McNiven on Justice League would be a beautiful book. But I doubt he could make the deadlines and he seems like he's very happy at Marvel.

[Buried Alien]

Candidates for Justice League artist that I would like to see:

*Oliver Coipel - this would mean Coipel is reunited with Geoff Johns 10 years after their initial work on Avengers. Would also be a nice way for DC to proffer an olive branch to Coipel after their acrimonious split when he left Legion Of Super-Heroes to work at Marvel.

*Marc Silvestri - A Johns/Silvestri Justice League would be huge for many reasons, not the least of which would be that Silvestri's joining DC would mean the reunion of Image founders Lee, Liefeld and Silvestri at DC Comics. Press coverage could be even bigger than it was for the announcement of Lee on Justice League.

*Salvador Larroca - A longshot and Larroca hasn't been as big as he used to be in many years. But he's never worked for DC as far as I know and his work is superb. I'd love to see him on the book.

*Phil Jimenez - I'd love to see this happen. A Johns/Jimenez Justice League would be obscenely gorgeous and incredibly entertaining. But like Larroca, I doubt it'll happen.

*Steve McNiven - McNiven on Justice League would be a beautiful book. But I doubt he could make the deadlines and he seems like he's very happy at Marvel.

You know...Barry Kitson hasn't done any DC work in quite a long time, and I enjoyed his work on JLA YEAR ONE and the FLASH & GREEN LANTERN: BRAVE & BOLD series that followed a year later. I wouldn't mind seeing Kitson illustrating the Justice League again.

My illustration tastes run (relatively) old school: Perez, Kitson, Grummett, etc.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Outside_85]

dang...I was hoping the other one would move on...but Lee is also one of the things I don't like about this book, and Ha certainly isn't an improvement.

[Movieartman]

Candidates for Justice League artist that I would like to see:

*Oliver Coipel - this would mean Coipel is reunited with Geoff Johns 10 years after their initial work on Avengers. Would also be a nice way for DC to proffer an olive branch to Coipel after their acrimonious split when he left Legion Of Super-Heroes to work at Marvel.

*Marc Silvestri - A Johns/Silvestri Justice League would be huge for many reasons, not the least of which would be that Silvestri's joining DC would mean the reunion of Image founders Lee, Liefeld and Silvestri at DC Comics. Press coverage could be even bigger than it was for the announcement of Lee on Justice League.

*Salvador Larroca - A longshot and Larroca hasn't been as big as he used to be in many years. But he's never worked for DC as far as I know and his work is superb. I'd love to see him on the book.

*Phil Jimenez - I'd love to see this happen. A Johns/Jimenez Justice League would be obscenely gorgeous and incredibly entertaining. But like Larroca, I doubt it'll happen.

*Steve McNiven - McNiven on Justice League would be a beautiful book. But I doubt he could make the deadlines and he seems like he's very happy at Marvel.

Dear god NOOOOOO not larroca please, the single good thing ive seen him draw well sense he got on ironman, is mechanical suits, his people SUCK!

Silvestri couldnt keep on hulk for more than 3 issues his scheduale keeping up with is more f!!ked than jim lees

Steve mcniven would be nice :) but he has his own problems with scheduales

coipel.......................................... i still HATE his faces and in justice league i dout there will be much do distract me from from the horrid faces like there was when he was drawing thor and evreything was glorious and spectacular

[Flashpoint]

Apparently, DC is farming through Marvel's roster of artists, especially given that many of them aren't exclusives anymore.
As long as they stay away from the Romitas and Greg Land, I'm fine with that. Personally, I'd suggest they get Olivier Coipel back from Marvel. He's not really doing anything over there on a regular basis. Maybe Mike Deodato, too. Get him back, DC.

Olivier Coipel's sudden and less-than-amicable split from DC in 2002 was not pretty. For almost a decade, DC flat-out refused to reprint his run on LSH in no small part because they didn't want to pay him any royalties. When Coipel left Legion to go work at Marvel, DC's staff at that time took it very negatively.

Having said that, if I recall correctly, that happened before Didio took over at the end of 2002. So Didio might be looking to mend fences and land bragging rights by luring Coipel back with a reunion with Johns after a very, very brief run on Avengers. With Kolins reportedly back at DC working on LSH, that would mean DC had won back both of Geoff Johns' Avengers partners (Kolins and Coipel). I also found it very intriguing that DC finally greenlit the release of a hardcover collection of Coipel's LSH run.

In fact, the more I think about this, the more I like the idea. But it depends tremendously on whether or not Coipel or DC want to work together again. I'd certainly love to see it happen. Perhaps the Legion Lost reprint was DC's first olive branch to Coipel and now they'll court him for Justice League. God, I hope it happens.

[Flashpoint]

You know...Barry Kitson hasn't done any DC work in quite a long time, and I enjoyed his work on JLA YEAR ONE and the FLASH & GREEN LANTERN: BRAVE & BOLD series that followed a year later. I wouldn't mind seeing Kitson illustrating the Justice League again.

My illustration tastes run (relatively) old school: Perez, Kitson, Grummett, etc.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

I mean absolutely no offense to the great and talented Kitson. But DC hiring him wouldn't exactly be in the same vicinity as Coipel, Hitch, Larroca or even Romita, Jr. This is DC's flagship book so expect a big name guaranteed to make a huge media splash. Kitson is brilliant, but he's not one of the hottest names working at DC or Marvel nowadays. (IMHO)

[Buried Alien]

I mean absolutely no offense to the great and talented Kitson. But DC hiring him wouldn't exactly be in the same vicinity as Coipel, Hitch, Larroca or even Romita, Jr. This is DC's flagship book so expect a big name guaranteed to make a huge media splash. Kitson is brilliant, but he's not one of the hottest names working at DC or Marvel nowadays. (IMHO)

He doesn't have to be; if the man is good and well-suited to the project, then by all means.

To use a basketball analogy (don't know if you're a fan): Derek Fisher isn't the flashiest player around, but he's a good player to have on a team if you want to win a championship. Just ask the Lakers.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[DarkKnghtJared]

Silvestri couldnt keep on hulk for more than 3 issues his scheduale keeping up with is more f!!ked than jim lees

As I recall, Silvestri had some sort of injury during that time, which explained the delay.

[Flashpoint]

Dear god NOOOOOO not larroca please, the single good thing ive seen him draw well sense he got on ironman, is mechanical suits, his people SUCK!

Silvestri couldnt keep on hulk for more than 3 issues his scheduale keeping up with is more f!!ked than jim lees

Steve mcniven would be nice :) but he has his own problems with scheduales

coipel.......................................... i still HATE his faces and in justice league i dout there will be much do distract from from the horrid faces like there was when he was drawing thor and evreything was glorious and spectacular

I'm leaning toward Coipel being a name that Didio would love to lure away from Marvel. Coipel has worked for DC before and left on bad terms right before Didio got hired, plus he briefly worked with Johns on Avengers. If Didio were to get him to sign again with DC, it would be significant in multiple ways. And frankly, I loved Coipel's Captain America-centered Avengers arc with Johns.

As for delays with any artist? Puh-leez. People were writing their hands over this issue when Jim Lee was announced. Almost everyone said JL would be late every single issue; they were all wrong. And a potential Image founders reunion with Lee, Silvestri and Liefeld all working at DC at the same time would be a media circus guaranteed to garner tons of publicity.

Totally agree on McNiven. Again, though, delays will be an issue with almost every big name artist in the business with very few exceptions. Still, I have a hard time seeing McNiven leave Marvel. He's been there forever and I haven't read anywhere that he's looking for greener pastures.

Frankly, if Hitch wasn't doing that silly reality TV-inspired comic he's working on now, I'd have pegged him as a candidate. But he's clearly very invested in making a go of it in the indie world. Plus, I think he's co-owner of that book, right? So he's out.

John Cassaday would phenomenal, but he's just as bad at meeting deadlines as all the others---if not worse. Astonishing X-Men's delays were horrifically bad. But I love Cassaday and perhaps with months and months of lead time, he could pull it off. I'd love to see him do it and it would be a gorgeous book.

[FailureByDesign]

Olivier Coipel/Steve McNiven/Stuart Immonen are high profile artists that i would like to see on a DC title such as JL, sure they would probably be just as bad as Lee for keeping up.

[Lexrules]

Id rather have someone draw a stick figure with a cape on it then look at a Jim Lee drawing. lol

[Flashpoint]

He doesn't have to be; if the man is good and well-suited to the project, then by all means.

To use a basketball analogy (don't know if you're a fan): Derek Fisher isn't the flashiest player around, but he's a good player to have on a team if you want to win a championship. Just ask the Lakers.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

LOL. I live in L.A. I'm a huge Lakers fan, dude.

But even I know that Fisher is no Kobe Bryant or Shaquille O'Neal. This is Justice League we're talking about here. It's going to be a big name and one that DC will be looking to use for maximum publicity impact. Kitson is one of the greatest artists in comics. I love his work. But he's not as big a name as he used to be and DC will be looking for a big name talent who will get major media coverage.

[Movieartman]

I'm leaning toward Coipel being a name that Didio would love to lure away from Marvel. Coipel has worked for DC before and left on bad terms right before Didio got hired, plus he briefly worked with Johns on Avengers. If Didio were to get him to sign again with DC, it would be significant in multiple ways. And frankly, I loved Coipel's Captain America-centered Avengers arc with Johns.

As for delays with any artist? Puh-leez. People were writing their hands over this issue when Jim Lee was announced. Almost everyone said JL would be late every single issue; they were all wrong. And a potential Image founders reunion with Lee, Silvestri and Liefeld all working at DC at the same time would be a media circus guaranteed to garner tons of publicity.

Totally agree on McNiven. Again, though, delays will be an issue with almost every big name artist in the business with very few exceptions. Still, I have a hard time seeing McNiven leave Marvel. He's been there forever and I haven't read anywhere that he's looking for greener pastures.

Frankly, if Hitch wasn't doing that silly reality TV-inspired comic he's working on now, I'd have pegged him as a candidate. But he's clearly very invested in making a go of it in the indie world. Plus, I think he's co-owner of that book, right? So he's out.

John Cassaday would phenomenal, but he's just as bad at meeting deadlines as all the others---if not worse. Astonishing X-Men's delays were horrifically bad. But I love Cassaday and perhaps with months and months of lead time, he could pull it off. I'd love to see him do it and it would be a gorgeous book.

hey america's got powers is awsome, ive been looking to get that cap centered avengers arc with coipel for awhile what was it called? red scare?
john cassaday, would be nice but only if he got his older shading style back, like from his atonishing run, and a really good colorist, like dean white (DEAN WHITE SHALL NOT LEAVE UNCANNY X-FORCE I HAVE SPOKEN LOL)