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    Default Quick question on homemade vs. organic webshooters

    I hop around the Marvel timeline reading random trades all the time, so some things that are temporary catch me off guard. I was just reading a post civil war issue and saw Peter using web a few times without having anything on his wrists.. I remember hearing that at some point he had gained the ability to shoot webs.. can anyone explain what happened there, and how it went away?

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    No one knows how it went away.
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    It was easier to explain when OMD was "just magic".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    I hop around the Marvel timeline reading random trades all the time, so some things that are temporary catch me off guard. I was just reading a post civil war issue and saw Peter using web a few times without having anything on his wrists.. I remember hearing that at some point he had gained the ability to shoot webs.. can anyone explain what happened there, and how it went away?
    Nope. His organic webbing and the other new powers he gained during the storylines with The Queen and The Other disappeared with no explanation whatsoever. It was all just conveniently 'swept under the rug' although if you read Spider Island carefully, you will notice that Peter says a few things that imply he once did have organic webbing.

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    Nope. His organic webbing and the other new powers he gained during the storylines with The Queen and The Other disappeared with no explanation whatsoever. It was all just conveniently 'swept under the rug' although if you read Spider Island carefully, you will notice that Peter says a few things that imply he once did have organic webbing.
    And Kaine (Scarlet Spider) was shown to have gained some of "the Other" powers like bone claws after his resurrection and dip in the Anti-Venom serum.

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    well does anyone know when or how he GOT the power? and when did it disappear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    well does anyone know when or how he GOT the power? and when did it disappear?
    From wikipedia:
    In addition to his original powers, Spider-Man gains the following abilities after he fights the Queen in "Disassembled",[35] and also after apparently dying at the hands of Morlun and being reborn ("Spider-Man: The Other," 2005). It is apparent that his powers gained from "The Other" are only available because a voice inside him says that he is "embracing the Other". While he still has most of these extra powers, a few of them (most notably the ability to produce organic webbing) no longer seem to be present, for reasons that have yet to be revealed.

    Joe Queseda implied that the loss of these extra powers may be related to the One More Day storyline. In an interview, he stated that "While we won't be making any direct references to "The Other," it's still a part of Spidey history, and it remains to be seen how Pete lost those powers."[36] However, in the letters page of The Amazing Spider-Man #640, the editors stated that the powers were always temporary by nature: "Those Other powers really only exhibited themselves under certain circumstances. They weren't extra powers Peter could call up whenever he wanted, so whether or not they've disappeared for good is a story waiting to be told. That said, though, Peter still does remember the adventure where he got them. He hasn't forgotten."[37


    So he got the organic shooters in Disassembled and the bone spike, see in the dark, carry things on his back through his costume powers in The Other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    well does anyone know when or how he GOT the power? and when did it disappear?
    Surprisingly, Cracked wrote a pretty decent paragraph about the whole thing that I think did it justice.
    http://www.cracked.com/article_18835...perheroes.html

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    These answers are a reminder why I don't keep this book constantly on my pull list. At least in Ultimate Spider-Man the writer knows what's going on with the character

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    These answers are a reminder why I don't keep this book constantly on my pull list. At least in Ultimate Spider-Man the writer knows what's going on with the character
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    Ok guys, I got off my lazy ass and did a little more searching and I found the answer. I don't know if the people who responded assumed I knew about One More Day or if they honestly didn't know, but that would have been the plot point to tell me about. There's no mystery as to how or when he lost his organic web shooters:

    "As for the webshooters: Again, it's an element that I felt needed to be brought back into Peter's world, and I felt that the fans would dig it as well. If I'm going to live by the theory that I've always believed in --that a Peter being single is an intrinsic part of the very foundation of the world of Spider-Man -- then the same can be said about mechanical webshooters vs. organic. While organic is cool and all, the mechanical webshooters demonstrate Peter's ingenuity and overall smarts. It also put him in situations in which he may just plain run out of web fluid! Organic webshooters took those tools away from us. So while good for a while and some stories, it was time to bring as many of the elements that make a Spider-Man comic a Spider-Man comic." - Joe Quesada in OMD interview

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    Ok guys, I got off my lazy ass and did a little more searching and I found the answer. I don't know if the people who responded assumed I knew about One More Day or if they honestly didn't know, but that would have been the plot point to tell me about. There's no mystery as to how or when he lost his organic web shooters:

    "As for the webshooters: Again, it's an element that I felt needed to be brought back into Peter's world, and I felt that the fans would dig it as well. If I'm going to live by the theory that I've always believed in --that a Peter being single is an intrinsic part of the very foundation of the world of Spider-Man -- then the same can be said about mechanical webshooters vs. organic. While organic is cool and all, the mechanical webshooters demonstrate Peter's ingenuity and overall smarts. It also put him in situations in which he may just plain run out of web fluid! Organic webshooters took those tools away from us. So while good for a while and some stories, it was time to bring as many of the elements that make a Spider-Man comic a Spider-Man comic." - Joe Quesada in OMD interview
    Actually we know "when and why" but we don't know "how" he lost them. They have said that everything in his past has happened except for his marriage to MJ, but they never really explained why he never references or uses his "Other" power.
    I honestly don't care if they ever explain it. I just kind of pretend it never happened, don't really think about it too hard and enjoy the book as it is today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    It also put him in situations in which he may just plain run out of web fluid!
    Organic wouldn't mean unlimited...O_O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trallis View Post
    Ok guys, I got off my lazy ass and did a little more searching and I found the answer. I don't know if the people who responded assumed I knew about One More Day or if they honestly didn't know, but that would have been the plot point to tell me about. There's no mystery as to how or when he lost his organic web shooters:

    "As for the webshooters: Again, it's an element that I felt needed to be brought back into Peter's world, and I felt that the fans would dig it as well. If I'm going to live by the theory that I've always believed in --that a Peter being single is an intrinsic part of the very foundation of the world of Spider-Man -- then the same can be said about mechanical webshooters vs. organic. While organic is cool and all, the mechanical webshooters demonstrate Peter's ingenuity and overall smarts. It also put him in situations in which he may just plain run out of web fluid! Organic webshooters took those tools away from us. So while good for a while and some stories, it was time to bring as many of the elements that make a Spider-Man comic a Spider-Man comic." - Joe Quesada in OMD interview
    It's kinda hard not to know about OMD, so yes, we assumed you knew. Especially since you specifically asked the one question neither OMD nor OMIT answered.

    As someone else said, we know when it happened. But that's it. We don't know WHY or HOW in an in-universe nature. We know the why is "Quesada didn't like it" out of universe. But people assumed that wasn't the question you were asking.
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