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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    When your weapons are swords and axes? I dont think you can humanely kill someone with those weapons.
    Swords, axes, spears, arrows - these are brutal weapons of war, though I wouldn't go so far as to say one can't kill humanely using them. Even clean, more "humane" blows are going to be messy and violent. But here, the Amazons are simply defending themselves, they didn't go looking for conflict; and though bloody, they don't seem to be looking to continue the conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    When your weapons are swords and axes? I dont think you can humanely kill someone with those weapons.
    It's comics. Since they have no problem getting in close range against lasers, they can aim for their weapons to disarm. Or, they can go for quick deaths. Impaling huge weapons into their chest and slicing people in half from the crotch up is brutal.

    The whole design of ame-comi is supposed to be over-the-top and that includes their brutality.
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    [QUOTE=BeccaBlast;15318849]Simply presenting your argument does not make it valid, or you right. Saying Tiberious referenced slavery, when he did not, simply shows you have a problem of letting go of old disputes. But, to spike these points yet again:

    Rape is not only sex without consent - -it is sex taken under false pretenses, or without full, informed consent. By any legal definition, what the Amazons did in Hephaestus' story was rape. Don't use legal terms unless you know the legal definitions.

    Aside from their purchase -- and yes, barter counts as purchase, so don't start that silliness again -- and the fact that none of them ever seemed to leave, or thought they could; yes, their freedom was restricted. Your definition of slavery is as narrow as it is of rape - -and neither of them are defensible.

    Since you can call it slavery, it is trafficking -- even if they can leave as adults, it is still trafficking in children.

    Why does reading Hephaestus or the Amazons as extremely grey characters make us Azzarello haters? There are biased assumptions here, but they aren't ours. Assuming that anyone who disagrees with your assessment of his work makes them a "hater" is a pretty huge bias. It also makes it impossible to take your arguments seriously.[/


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    Quote Originally Posted by fanboiii View Post
    It's comics. Since they have no problem getting in close range against lasers, they can aim for their weapons to disarm. Or, they can go for quick deaths. Impaling huge weapons into their chest and slicing people in half from the crotch up is brutal.

    The whole design of ame-comi is supposed to be over-the-top and that includes their brutality.
    Upon reading it a second time i have to agree with you. Sword fights can be brutal, but they did go over the top here with gratuitous violence (all the nasty things you mentioned) which like you said is probably overexaggerated because of the style of this book.

    I also dont like the story. It's nothing we havent seen before. Why is this getting a book instead of a monthly Ben Caldwell WW book for kids?

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    Because they're going for maximum awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fused View Post
    Because they're going for maximum awesome.
    Also for Maximum Impact, and they got me! I loved everything about it, the art was amazing! Amanda Conner draws the most beautiful Diana that I can ever recall seeing, at any time, or any where. It was the way she should look in every interpretation across the board in every medium. I have a thing for widow's peaks and the way she draws Diana's ought to be as ubiquitous as Superman's spit curl. It explains the tiara and I liked that the tiara looked like a helmet. That second costume was off the chain, but what I dug most were the looks between Diana and Steve. I actually found myself saying "awwww" when she blushed during her speech.

    What's really making me love it though is this characterization of Diana. She doesn't take crap from people and she's great with a snappy comeback. The writers easily surmounted many of the things that give message board posters pause. They explained the outfits, and why she'd go to America, and her relationship with her mother, as well as her one with Steve. There was no unfair contest for a divinely blessed Diana to win, and no way for inattentive readers to surmise a mistaken air of perfection.

    Cheetah was cute, the bazooka was awesome, and the interplay between the characters was authentic and real. These Amazons don't seem like red shirts, or a faceless horde of barbarians, or even random hot chicks. The way they're designed they have individual personalities and I could see reading a story starring any one of them. If they were turned into snakes I'd care. This had everything Azzarello's take is missing along with the kitchen sink!

    This was my favorite line...

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    MY favorite line was "SHUT UP YOU WASTE OF SKIN!"

    It was awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter_peterson View Post
    MY favorite line was "SHUT UP YOU WASTE OF SKIN!"

    It was awesome.
    Yeah it was! I actually considered making it my avatar, but I don't want any trouble.
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    I just puchased these 3 issues and this has been my favourite version on wonder woman I have ever read.

    Also skimming through this thread is the exact reason why alot of people avoid this forum. Too much anger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_i4got View Post
    I just puchased these 3 issues and this has been my favourite version on wonder woman I have ever read.
    Yeah, they really did a great job.

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