The Flood vs the Galactic Empire

[Hunter63]

The Flood begin to attack the Galactic Empire right after sizing a planet and a few ships, who wins?

Scenario One: Movie Empire
Scenario Two: EU Empire

[Surtur]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the empire drastically out number the Flood?

[Hunter63]

So did the Forerunner when they first fought the Flood.

[StupidMoniker]

Movie empire doesn't have planetary shields, so the flood just jump to Coruscant and have many billions of people to turn into more flood and spread across the galaxy. EU empire can keep them from landing anywhere with a large population and have the demonstrated ability to reduce a planet to slag without the benefit of superweapons (though they have a few of those floating around as well). One big advantage Star Wars has over the Flood's enemies from Halo is the widespread use of robots (Droids) which the Flood cannot assimilate, especially in the EU (or prior to the formation of the Empire in the prequel movies with the CIS) with all the battle droids.

[Siriel]

When is this taking place in the timeline?

[Hunter63]

This will be the start of the Empire, seems good to start there.

Also StupidMoniker, shouldn't Gravemind be able to handle those? The Empire still uses a lot of organic troops so I would imagine the Flood could be able to form a Gravemind sooner or later.

[StupidMoniker]

This will be the start of the Empire, seems good to start there.

Also StupidMoniker, shouldn't Gravemind be able to handle those? The Empire still uses a lot of organic troops so I would imagine the Flood could be able to form a Gravemind sooner or later.

Spark managed to hang around a Flood controlled installation for a LONG time. Having billions of robots that are armed with weapons that can take down various Flood forms would be a huge advantage over what the Covenant or UNSC were throwing at them. There would be no reason to ever let the Flood come in contact with an organic troop once they learn that organics get turned into enemy shock troops. After their first encounter with an infection form, the Empire should be using battledroids only.

[Stigma Rex]

Spark managed to hang around a Flood controlled installation for a LONG time. Having billions of robots that are armed with weapons that can take down various Flood forms would be a huge advantage over what the Covenant or UNSC were throwing at them. There would be no reason to ever let the Flood come in contact with an organic troop once they learn that organics get turned into enemy shock troops. After their first encounter with an infection form, the Empire should be using battledroids only.

But at this point, do they have the infastructure to be able to do that? at the start of the Empire they didn't have Dark Troopers yet, and they had just destroyed the vast majority of CIS factories.

[StupidMoniker]

But at this point, do they have the infastructure to be able to do that? at the start of the Empire they didn't have Dark Troopers yet, and they had just destroyed the vast majority of CIS factories.

In the EU they have construction droids the size of a city block that can make a new factory in a day or so. They have the capacity to make every Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, TIE Fighter, and miscellaneous other ships that show up in 16 years, so I don't think cranking out some droids (which are still being produced for a variety of roles like IG-88, interrogation droids, mouse droids, the labor droid from ANH special edition, etc.) is going to be too much of a challenge.

[Hunter63]

The Forerunner had facilities that made their more powerful sentinels every few seconds IIRC, they seem far more competent than any droid soldier from the previous war. Plus not only was that a large part of their military but the Flood still won so how useful can the driods be alone? I think you will need more competent soldiers.

[StupidMoniker]

The Forerunner had facilities that made their more powerful sentinels every few seconds IIRC, they seem far more competent than any droid soldier from the previous war. Plus not only was that a large part of their military but the Flood still won so how useful can the driods be alone? I think you will need more competent soldiers.

That was all offscreen though. I think the only robot that the Flood encounter in the games is Spark, against whom they accomplish nothing. We don't know how the Flood managed to beat the Forerunners, but their actual feats against robots are not good. Even the crappy CIS battle droids (not even destroyers and super battle droids, the roger roger idiots) would likely do well against the Flood.

[Cthulhu_of_R'yleh]

That was all offscreen though. I think the only robot that the Flood encounter in the games is Spark, against whom they accomplish nothing. We don't know how the Flood managed to beat the Forerunners, but their actual feats against robots are not good. Even the crappy CIS battle droids (not even destroyers and super battle droids, the roger roger idiots) would likely do well against the Flood.

There's Sentinels in two and three. I can't remember if there are any in one. I think there might be a few on the last couple of levels.

[Hunter63]

In other various media the Flood fought against Forerunner Onyx sentinels I believe and fought various others, said sentinels that are above the one sin the game are far more dangerous than battle droids, so I think the Empire might have to rely on different tactics.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

I am not sure what the Galactic Empire would do here against the Flood.
They have the ability to overcome Forerunners, which have armor and shields far exceeding those of a Spartan's Mjilnor Mark VI armor.
The sentinels were only a way of slowing down the Flood, they could not defeat them completely. The Flood have too many ways of adapting and completely superhuman stats to the point of leaping dozens of feat and smacking around heavily armored people, etc.
Basically once a carrier form gets on a high-population density planet and busts the infection forms will give the Flood a massive army and it is pretty much over.
Their ability to adapt to technology, use the memory of the people they infect, and so on and so forth gives them a massive advantage here.

Personal shields is about the only way to even slow them down (other than the obvious planetary shields). And the Empire is lacking in anything like that except those weird droids and I am not sure that those would last long.

[Cthulhu_of_R'yleh]

They have the ability to overcome Forerunners, which have armor and shields far exceeding those of a Spartan's Mjilnor Mark VI armor.

Wasn't Chief's only a level 2 Containment suit? And the Forerunners was something like a level 10.

Then there's the issue of infection, all it takes is a single spore from the flood to screw an entire planet.