Do you think that any of the UU comics will be extremely valuable someday?

[Wolverine12]

So with Miles raging success I have been wondering if any of the UU titles will ever reach the level of desirability as titles in 616 and original DC comics. I don't think any issues will ever reach levels like Superman, Batman or Spidey's first appearance, but I can see some of them maybe reaching the same type of prices as say Hulk 181. Anybody else speculating

[Grunty]

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Are you serious? Really? Comics aren't worth anything anymore since the late 90's at which point everyone realised how silly it was to hope that a comic might one day reach such a fame that it's original issues are worth anything more than the original sales price or lower. Anything which aren't the famous original groundbreaking issues will ever increase in value.

If someone wants to read the story they buy the trades, or read it online on Marvel.com or more likely find a download of it on the internet.

So from a pure readers interest point of view there is no real increase in value. It's likely to find these issues cheaper in sales bin somewhere in shops.

From a collectors point of view, there really isn't anything remarkable about the old Ultimate Universe comics, except maybe for Ultimate Spiderman #1 since it was the comic that started it all. But i don't think will reach a rank above maybe 50$ in the near future, but i admit that might increase.

Everything else is not remarkable enough. The problem is that the opinions on the UU are divided. Some see it as fresh new wind, others as just an attempt at Grim Dark version of Marvel Heros (except for Spiderman again since he stayed more true to his 616 version) and others again are just not interested.

So no. There isn't any indication of the comics ever reaching "collectors value".

The great collectors interest comics are all those of the past before the internet became such a dominant factor.

[sage6paths]

Death of a Spider-Man.

[MarvelMaster616]

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Are you serious? Really? Comics aren't worth anything anymore since the late 90's at which point everyone realised how silly it was to hope that a comic might one day reach such a fame that it's original issues are worth anything more than the original sales price or lower. Anything which aren't the famous original groundbreaking issues will ever increase in value.

If someone wants to read the story they buy the trades, or read it online on Marvel.com or more likely find a download of it on the internet.

So from a pure readers interest point of view there is no real increase in value. It's likely to find these issues cheaper in sales bin somewhere in shops.

From a collectors point of view, there really isn't anything remarkable about the old Ultimate Universe comics, except maybe for Ultimate Spiderman #1 since it was the comic that started it all. But i don't think will reach a rank above maybe 50$ in the near future, but i admit that might increase.

Everything else is not remarkable enough. The problem is that the opinions on the UU are divided. Some see it as fresh new wind, others as just an attempt at Grim Dark version of Marvel Heros (except for Spiderman again since he stayed more true to his 616 version) and others again are just not interested.

So no. There isn't any indication of the comics ever reaching "collectors value".

The great collectors interest comics are all those of the past before the internet became such a dominant factor.

I agree with this sentiment, albeit with a touch of cynicism. I don't think comics will ever have the same collectors value they once did because so much print media is going digital. That and the advent of graphic novel compilations and omnibuses have changed what it means to collect comics. So for most comics that came out in the 2000s, and I'm not just talking about Ultimate here, I don't think they'll be extremely vaulable. There may be a very small niche market, but that value is still limited given how the market has changed since the 80s and 90s.

[CaptainMarvell]

See I thought digital comics would cause the individual issues to go up in value. The more people buy digital, the less they sell of the printed version, which then in turn makes them print less. If there's less of the printed version, its harder to find and/or more unique and valuable. I could see 90's comics being less valuable because they saturated the market and there were tons of copies out there. Having said that, I think the first Ultimates, Spider-man and X-men will end up being the most valuable to collect from the Ultimate universe. I don't see them producing anything else that would have as much of an impact as those three unless they create a new character and they really take off in popularity.

I simply buy comics for the stories. Many times I've been tempted to buy certain comics because its a variant cover or a #1, but I've committed myself to buying them just for the stories. I saw Ultimate X-Men #1 (vol 1) for $20 in my LCBS the other week and I passed on it. I could get two (maybe three) Ultimate X-Men graphic novels for that price on Amazon.

[Samorai_black]

I dont see them being worth much at all for the reasons stated. I could see Death of Spider-man, Ultimate Fallout #4, Ultimate Comics: Spider-man#1 maybe being worth a little something less then $100. Also if The Miles books are worth anything I could see Spider-men in there as well

[Balfro]

I'd say since the digital age of comics, piracy included, comics are worth next to nill. The reason all those old issues from way back in the 60's and 70's are worth so much is because they are extremely rare. Almost every comic that comes out now a days is accompanied by the option to read it online or in trade at some point. I only buy single issues because I can't wait 6 months for 30 minutes of entertainment. I'd rather get them in small monthly doses. And I do keep them bagged and boarded but only because I did pay money for them so I want them to stay new and creaseless.

[Wolverine12]

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Are you serious? Really? Comics aren't worth anything anymore since the late 90's at which point everyone realised how silly it was to hope that a comic might one day reach such a fame that it's original issues are worth anything more than the original sales price or lower. Anything which aren't the famous original groundbreaking issues will ever increase in value.

If someone wants to read the story they buy the trades, or read it online on Marvel.com or more likely find a download of it on the internet.

So from a pure readers interest point of view there is no real increase in value. It's likely to find these issues cheaper in sales bin somewhere in shops.

From a collectors point of view, there really isn't anything remarkable about the old Ultimate Universe comics, except maybe for Ultimate Spiderman #1 since it was the comic that started it all. But i don't think will reach a rank above maybe 50$ in the near future, but i admit that might increase.

Everything else is not remarkable enough. The problem is that the opinions on the UU are divided. Some see it as fresh new wind, others as just an attempt at Grim Dark version of Marvel Heros (except for Spiderman again since he stayed more true to his 616 version) and others again are just not interested.

So no. There isn't any indication of the comics ever reaching "collectors value".

The great collectors interest comics are all those of the past before the internet became such a dominant factor.

I love internet attitude, it always make me laugh at how rude people can be lol.

Anyways, so nobody thinks that 40 years from now the first appearance of Miles will be sought after as a collectible? I'm not planning to bank roll my child's college fund with comics or anything but I also wouldn't be surprised that with the advent of digital access that print will go up in value. I also wouldn't be surprised if comics went completely digital by then and print comics become hipsters toilet paper.

[DoctorOak]

Miles' first issue could be pretty big in the future - but it really depends on how that character grows from here on out. You don't exactly see Spider-Man 2099 #1 doing the rounds at Christie's. Even then, even if Miles winds up being a multimedia success that rivals Peter Parker's extended commercial life outside of the books, it'd be a hell of a long time before it'd be worth anything real.

A full collection (especially a matching one: ie, all the matching TPBs, or all the individual issues), though, will probably be worth something in the future. Any complete collection of anything will be one day. Your kids or grandchildren may one day find a lot of value in your collection (though, arguably, more from going through it than selling it), but you're not likely to reap any financial reward for it in your life time.

Comics aren't really an investment in anything other than the storylines. Really not worth considering them as anything more than that.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Really old comics are worth alot because they were printed on the same low-quality paper as newspaper and because they were sold primarily to children who didn't take very good care of them. Contrast that with the modern market, where comics are printed on higher-quality magazine paper and sold mostly to adults, many of whom bag and board their collections. New comics aren't worth as much because they can easily be kept in near-mint condition for decades.

I see issues of Watchmen going on ebay for $4. If a classic like Watchmen can barely keep up with inflation, there's no way that any of the UU titles will ever be worth much more than what you payed for them. Never buy a comic unless you think you're going to enjoy the story.

[batman_pwns]

Anyways, so nobody thinks that 40 years from now the first appearance of Miles will be sought after as a collectible?

No, not at all.

The reason that comics from the 40s/50s/60s are so valuable today is because their supply is VERY VERY VERY VERY limited. Back then nobody had a "collector mentality." Nobody bagged and boarded or kept good care of their comics. Comics back then were completely disposable, like a newspaper. People would read them and then discard them. Kids would fold them in half and put them in their back pocket and then go play outside. So because of that, the vast majority of these Golden and Silver Age comics have been destroyed over the years. Action Comics Vol 1 #1 is worth a million dollars precisely because there are estimated to be less than 100 copies left in the entire world, and only NINE copies have been CGC graded at 9.0 or above condition. In the entire world, there are only nine copies left in near mint condition, and that is precisely why its worth a million dollars.

Conversely today everyone bags and boards and takes good care of their comics. So the vast majority of comics today will still be in good condition 40 years from now. This increased supply means they will never come close to matching the rarity of Golden and Silver Age comics and therefore never become truly valuable. Look at it this way, a typical comic today has a print run of about 100,000 copies. To match the rarity of Action Comics Vol 1 #1, literally 99.9% of them would have to be destroyed so that only 100 copies remain. With how many collectors are out there that bag and board everything, today's comics will never come close to matching that scarcity. Nowhere close.

Some modern comics can have a relatively high value. The original Mirage TMNT comics had print runs of only 3,000 copies of each of the first few issues, and those issues are now worth hundreds of dollars. Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 1 #1 had a very low print run as well and is worth several hundred dollars. But still this is about all they will ever be worth is a few hundred dollars. They will never come close to matching the value of the old Golden and Silver Age comics just because they will never be that scarce.

[Balfro]

No, not at all.

The reason that comics from the 40s/50s/60s are so valuable today is because their supply is VERY VERY VERY VERY limited. Back then nobody had a "collector mentality." Nobody bagged and boarded or kept good care of their comics. Comics back then were completely disposable, like a newspaper. People would read them and then discard them. Kids would fold them in half and put them in their back pocket and then go play outside. So because of that, the vast majority of these Golden and Silver Age comics have been destroyed over the years. Action Comics Vol 1 #1 is worth a million dollars precisely because there are estimated to be less than 100 copies left in the entire world, and only NINE copies have been CGC graded at 9.0 or above condition. In the entire world, there are only nine copies left in near mint condition, and that is precisely why its worth a million dollars.

Conversely today everyone bags and boards and takes good care of their comics. So the vast majority of comics today will still be in good condition 40 years from now. This increased supply means they will never come close to matching the rarity of Golden and Silver Age comics and therefore never become truly valuable. Look at it this way, a typical comic today has a print run of about 100,000 copies. To match the rarity of Action Comics Vol 1 #1, literally 99.9% of them would have to be destroyed so that only 100 copies remain. With how many collectors are out there that bag and board everything, today's comics will never come close to matching that scarcity. Nowhere close.

Some modern comics can have a relatively high value. The original Mirage TMNT comics had print runs of only 3,000 copies of each of the first few issues, and those issues are now worth hundreds of dollars. Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 1 #1 had a very low print run as well and is worth several hundred dollars. But still this is about all they will ever be worth is a few hundred dollars. They will never come close to matching the value of the old Golden and Silver Age comics just because they will never be that scarce.

What about after the Great Comic Book Burnings of 2017? Oops, I've said too much...

[NapoleonBlownapart]

What about after the Great Comic Book Burnings of 2017? Oops, I've said too much...

Nice try, John Titor.

[Trallis]

Extremely valuable? no. but valuable? yes definitely. The idea that comics aren't worth anything anymore because by 1980 everyone knew to save their comics and bag and board them is a myth.

When I say they'll be valuable, I don't mean thousands of dollars, but they'll all be worth more than their cover price, and certain ones will be worth hundreds. It's funny you mentioned Ultimate comics because Ultimate Spider-Man #1 is one of the most valuable modern comics. Variant editions of the issue are even more valuable. I don't know about other Ultimate Comics being valuable, but I definitely keep my Ultimate Fallout #4 in good condition.

People love first issues and first appearances and are willing to pay a lot for them.
Chew #1 is often going for over $300.00 on eBay.
Nyx #3(first appearance of x-23) is going for $200.00 on a regular basis.

These are comics that came out this past decade.

[Sinx]

I think the pivotal events and first appearances can definitely be worth something in about fifty or so years. A CGC graded 9.0 or above Ultimate Spiderman #1 (volume 1) is over $100 on eBay. If Miles Morales' character becomes even more of a hit, I'm sure his first appearance would go for a few hundred in the not-too-distant future.