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    Quote Originally Posted by hysang View Post
    In her original series, she was not the happy and vivacious character she is now.
    Which is why her original series was canceled and has been largely forgotten. The She-Hulk as she's most widely known is the polar opposite of the Hulk. That's a major part of her appeal. The hook was that gamma exposure and transformation was a conduit for tapping into an individual's hidden aspect. Bruce Banner was emotionally repressed prior to his transformation, but the Hulk was pure unrestrained emotion. Samuel Sterns was a man of below average intelligence and little ambition, while the Leader was a genius megalomaniac. Emil Blonsky was a spy used to blending in and changing to fit his environment, while the Abomination was a misshapen monster who, unlike the Hulk, couldn't change back and thus (unlike Blonsky) could never again blend in. Jennifer Walters was a dour, introverted, workaholic lawyer, while the She-Hulk is the ultimate fun-loving extrovert. That's the character that people know and how she's been used pretty consistently for the past 30 years or so. Doesn't mean she can't have layers or depth (she can and does) but being "ominous" and "dangerous" aren't really root, defining components of the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseu Gouveia View Post
    I didn´t even know there was a White Tiger. ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalorama View Post
    Which is why her original series was canceled and has been largely forgotten. The She-Hulk as she's most widely known is the polar opposite of the Hulk. That's a major part of her appeal. The hook was that gamma exposure and transformation was a conduit for tapping into an individual's hidden aspect. Bruce Banner was emotionally repressed prior to his transformation, but the Hulk was pure unrestrained emotion. Samuel Sterns was a man of below average intelligence and little ambition, while the Leader was a genius megalomaniac. Emil Blonsky was a spy used to blending in and changing to fit his environment, while the Abomination was a misshapen monster who, unlike the Hulk, couldn't change back and thus (unlike Blonsky) could never again blend in. Jennifer Walters was a dour, introverted, workaholic lawyer, while the She-Hulk is the ultimate fun-loving extrovert. That's the character that people know and how she's been used pretty consistently for the past 30 years or so. Doesn't mean she can't have layers or depth (she can and does) but being "ominous" and "dangerous" aren't really root, defining components of the character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    1) What have I proposed that is bad?
    2) Movie audiences are independent from fandom, but that doesn't mean they'll flock to any given hero. My brother pouts all the time that there are no heroes left to bring to the movies.
    3) Recognition does help.
    4) WHY THE HELL DO PEOPLE THINK WHITE TIGER OF ALL CHARACTERS IS QUALIFIED?!

    That's what is bothering me. Where is this "White Tiger can handle her own movie" is coming from? The character barely has her own appreciation threads, and now you guys think that she's capable of handling her own film?

    Tell me, what would a White Tiger film entail that doesn't make it a Spider-Man or Daredevil clone?
    Basically because WT is a hot Hispanic woman who kicks butt in a costume that is way cooler than Wonder Womans. It's the Chica factor,and Hispanics are a major growing market.Like I said movie audiences who are independent of fandom flock to the movie they like regardless of the character.Avengers was a huge success because of a great creative team,good advertising,and the publics embracing it as ultimate action adventure.All that hype about building the Avengers up because of previous movies was just crap.The only pull was seeing more Downey as a smart a** Tony Stark. The real story here is whether Avengers will increase audience pull in reverse for the next Hulk,Cap,and Thor.Iron Man has it own pull,and whether Widow or Hawkeye will sustain their first film.The bottom line here is all of the article writers choices are mostly C listers anyway.I'd rather see Pepper Potts as a Rescue spinoff of Iron Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseu Gouveia View Post
    ..."anymore".
    So what's your point? That they should make a She-Hulk movie based on elements of the character that failed to spark audience interest and were abandoned almost 3 decades ago and that pretty much every writer who's handled her in that time have ignored? The She-Hulk that's existed for as long as most people have been aware of her, the She-Hulk that will almost certainly be the blueprint for any live action version of the character is simply not the one you're talking about. Yes, she was that once, but Batman used to be a guy who carried guns and killed people. Both a long time ago and aren't likely coming back any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alton View Post
    Basically because WT is a hot Hispanic woman who kicks butt in a costume that is way cooler than Wonder Womans. It's the Chica factor,and Hispanics are a major growing market.Like I said movie audiences who are independent of fandom flock to the movie they like regardless of the character.Avengers was a huge success because of a great creative team,good advertising,and the publics embracing it as ultimate action adventure.All that hype about building the Avengers up because of previous movies was just crap.The only pull was seeing more Downey as a smart a** Tony Stark. The real story here is whether Avengers will increase audience pull in reverse for the next Hulk,Cap,and Thor.Iron Man has it own pull,and whether Widow or Hawkeye will sustain their first film.The bottom line here is all of the article writers choices are mostly C listers anyway.I'd rather see Pepper Potts as a Rescue spinoff of Iron Man.
    I see what you mean by Hispanic vote, but surely there's another more prominent Hispanic superhero Marvel has right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    I see what you mean by Hispanic vote, but surely there's another more prominent Hispanic superhero Marvel has right now?
    who would that be? are you talking about another spider knockoff? that's a lot riskier if we're talking movie property.

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    I agree with the list but would change a few things:

    She-Hulk to me would need a TV series or if the Hulk gets another movie, she needs to have a prominent role in where you see her becoming She-Hulk and then helping Hulk while growing into the role of a superhero by the end of the movie. she just needs a big introduction

    Colleen and Misty: TV SHOW. HANDS DOWN. especially if you have someone who can write street level heroes (i hope somebody gets what I mean. I'm not good with words). their idea for the two definitely sounds like a synopsis for a good TV series and to who ever suggested Devon Aoki, I LOVE YOU. I would also rather see Power Man and Iron Fist regularly featured in the series because they have history with these two. it would seem pretty good to me.

    Dazzler: uhhhh the jury is still out on this one. personally I don't where to go with this either. I see her screen time being more on a show and what was suggested for her premise was a good idea because it fits with today still with the issue of celebrities coming out and what is potentially at risk for them. Northstar though, needs to be in this as one of her supporting characters hands down. him and Lila Cheney being that they're all mutants as well and it would be more believable to viewers (in some sense)

    White Tiger: to gain more interest from A) the teenage girl demographic and B) from the Hispanic community, a film for her is a good idea. the idea would be like Amazing Spider-Man, but it would be her searching for the truth about her brother's death and the mystery behind the tiger amulets. this will be her coming into the role of a superhero on her own. I don't think that was an established villain in that Catwoman movie but I don't read Catwoman but it would deeply involve some gang leader or whoever who knows about the amulets and is involved in her brother's death. now if they ever do a Young Avengers movie, I'd put her on the list along with Spider-Girl and X-23 (movie X-23 could be introduced in a wolverine film first and Spider-girl in her own or a spider-man film. it depends) they could change what they want with her so she doesn't have to be simply a clone with no emotions though. these three along with the original cast of the Young Avengers and add Victor Alvarez, and Kevin Masters. the reason why? because they all basically have a teenage counterpart role to several Avengers is why, so why not put them all on a team together? but that's personally my opinion sooooo yeah.

    Ms Marvel: I wouldn't change a thing

    Firestar: leaning towards a TV series because then when she gets cancer, you can spread that out to build up drama. to me, I don't think that would be approached well if done in a movie but can be in a show

    Wasp and the others: the only way I see them carrying anything is if they star in a movie where they are a part of the main cast. Wasp is girl power but it's best to start her off as a part of the cast. she could pull a She-Hulk and in the middle of the movie becomes a superhero that helps save the day, but with her it won't be an accidental transformation. I can't say much for the others

    and whoever suggested that Black widow get a movie of her own, I agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalorama View Post
    So what's your point? That they should make a She-Hulk movie based on elements of the character that failed to spark audience interest and were abandoned almost 3 decades ago and that pretty much every writer who's handled her in that time have ignored? The She-Hulk that's existed for as long as most people have been aware of her, the She-Hulk that will almost certainly be the blueprint for any live action version of the character is simply not the one you're talking about. Yes, she was that once, but Batman used to be a guy who carried guns and killed people. Both a long time ago and aren't likely coming back any time soon.
    That's the mututally exclusive part I was talking about. Tony Stark is a fun-loving, freewheeling playboy, but he's also a serious-minded genius with some sadness and daddy issues.

    Shulkie could be both. If anything, her ability to be carefree and funny would make the moments where she gets angry and beats the *&^% out of some bad guy even more dramatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hysang View Post
    That's the mututally exclusive part I was talking about. Tony Stark is a fun-loving, freewheeling playboy, but he's also a serious-minded genius with some sadness and daddy issues.

    Shulkie could be both.
    No one said she couldn't be. In fact, I quite specifically said the opposite. But the specific elements that you brought up aren't really relevant to the character anymore and haven't been for decades. She can have shades and layers, but her fundamental character isn't built around any kind of dark or ominous presentation nor should it be (in the same way that the core of Stark's character is the arrogant, smarmy genius and that the other stuff is shading and layers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird/Diamondback View Post
    I see what you mean by Hispanic vote, but surely there's another more prominent Hispanic superhero Marvel has right now?
    I can only think of these: White Tiger. Rictor. Reptil. Spider-Girl. WindDancer. Power Man II. Ultimate universe Spidey. Feral. not many choices to deal with
    now whether they'll work or not?
    1) has a good chance since they're starting to promote her to people
    2) doesn't have a chance outside of a team book and this the X-Men we're talking about here.
    3) If the TV series works for her they might try him again.
    4) = Challenge
    5) currently depowered and in obscurity status. see reason #2
    6) like #4 a challenge.
    7) even though it would bring in Black and Hispanic audiences, if done right, he's not gonna get a lot because of the fact that everyone only knows Peter Parker and you saw media reaction when people found out Ultimate universe Pete died. so that ain't happening anytime soon
    8) see reasons 2 and 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo View Post
    who would that be? are you talking about another spider knockoff? that's a lot riskier if we're talking movie property.
    I love Echo (though she probably identifies more with her dad's culture than her mom's), but she's probably tied up with the Daredevil rights. An Echo & Elektra movie would be badass, though. I think a White Tiger movie could really work, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoen1xSon View Post
    Colleen and Misty: TV SHOW. HANDS DOWN. especially if you have someone who can write street level heroes (i hope somebody gets what I mean. I'm not good with words). their idea for the two definitely sounds like a synopsis for a good TV series and to who ever suggested Devon Aoki, I LOVE YOU. I would also rather see Power Man and Iron Fist regularly featured in the series because they have history with these two. it would seem pretty good to me.
    I would take a movie or tv show! The benefits of the TV series are that they could really expand the cast and explore a lot of the street level characters in more depth than a movie could. A high octane, kung-fu filled Daughters of the Dragon movie would be so great though.
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    Glad to see She-Hulk on the list. I think she could work as movie but she would have to inducted via a Hulk sequel first. As for her origin, she gets her powers from a blood transfusion, why not have the Leader administer it, he had litres of the stuff in the last movie.

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    Sad to see Storm isn't on this list of Marvel ladies to get their own movies. I would absolutely watch a Storm movie. I think a Mystique movie could also work really well. A female James Bond but she can morph into anyone? Yes please! Heck, you could even do a Storm movie with Mystique as the main villain. I would pay lots of money to see that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR News View Post
    With the continuing success of "The Avengers" leading to heightened fan-hope for a Black WIdow movie, CBR looks at the rest of Marvel's female pantheon to see who else could anchor her own action film.


    Full article here.
    You left off Spider-Woman and foolishly included that version of Spider-Girl with that horrible actress.
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