If Superman announces he is a homosexual are you going to drop his book?

[adkal]

It's one thing to debate, or discuss, with rational and logical points. That's not what's happening here.

It's not?

:P

[Lexrules]

There are waaaaaaaaaay too many people in this thread that are acting as if this is a done deal. Frankly, it's downright hilarious to see so many people losing their goddamned minds over something that has no chance in hell of happening anyway. It's one thing to debate, or discuss, with rational and logical points. That's not what's happening here. This thread has become equally as insane as the one in the main DC forum about the ACTUAL gay character, despite there being a 100% chance of this not happening.

I mean, look at what you guys are doing to "cooler heads will prevail" posters like LexRules... he's SWEARING with SYMBOLS!

LOL.. Well I'm angry about the thought of this God D@mn It..

[adkal]

They could always do it as a way to devalue the property so the S&S crew would have to settle for less, but that would blow up in their faces and cost them a heckuva lot more.

[adkal]

LOL.. Well I'm angry about the thought of this God D@mn It..

Shouldn't that be 'G'd D@mn It'?

;)

[ForeverYoung8]

While I do think Alan Scott is the most likely candidate, I think DC should just create a new gay character instead of changing an existing one.

"But new characters never last! They usually fail!"

The well-written ones do just fine. The key is to not give the character a solo right away (new solo's often DO fail). Put him in a team book. Make him a regular in the Justice League until he catches on. Martian Manhunter can't seem to carry a solo, but he's extremely popular among readers. Ditto Aztek, from Morrison's JLA run. An angel from Heaven in the hands of Morrison worked just fine.

So would a new gay character.








(Fuel...meet Fire lol)

[OldSchoolfan]

I will drop the book. If you change this about the character, you really change the character into something very different from what was originally intended. Why not just start from scratch? Its the whole issue I have with the announcement.

Although, in the back of my mind, when I would hear Grant Morrison say things like, "The marriage is really bad for Superman..." I thought perhaps he would try this. The marriage wasn't bad for Superman, it was the next logical step. And, there were still a lot of stories to tell with Clark and Lois married. I think it was a lack of creative thought that drove this particular change.

Along with the fact that we have to exploit someones sexual orientation for sales. Not creative at all. Another example of the epic failure that has been Dan Didio and Geoff Johns influence on the DCU in my opinion.

[Desaad]

To those who are saying "It's not that I'm homophobic, it's that it's not in character, and it'll hurt the franchise!"....just stop. Just stop trying to justify it, because you're not fooling anyone, and it's making you look cowardly in addition to homophobic.

[OldSchoolfan]

Yes. The same small group of people who get bent out of shape over these things will get bent out of shape, the conservative news media will make an issue of it for 2-3 days, you'll get a couple of jokes from late night comedians, and after that, everyone who doesn't read comics will have forgotten all about it.

I'm far more concerned about the execution than the announcement. It's not so much which character is going to be gay as much as who is going to be writing and drawing him after the announcement. 'Cause the idea of a Howard Mackie or Scott Lobdell writing a book like this is what really frightens me.

I actually think its the opposite. Its a small group that wants this change while everyone else is fine with Superman as he has already been presented. I think that this could be something that DC takes a hit that would last a long time.

[ForeverYoung8]

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[Desaad]

No, it really wouldn't.

Very few people want this change. Very few people are vehemently opposed to this change.

Most media consumers are, I suspect, like me; they don't care.

[kane]

I would drop it, because I am not interested in reading a comic book with a gay lead character. Do not get me wrong, I would not rant on the internet about it or write angry letters to DC or do stuff like that. I would just drop the book, because it would not be my cup of tea anymore.

[adkal]

To those who are saying "It's not that I'm homophobic, it's that it's not in character, and it'll hurt the franchise!"....just stop. Just stop trying to justify it, because you're not fooling anyone, and it's making you look cowardly in addition to homophobic.

And those who don't understand or appreciate the international resonance Superman has should stop, too - it comes across as you pushing an agenda without actually taking into consideration the ramifications.

I know I'm treating this a 'war game' and posting 'worst case scenarios' but I have observed how non-comic book reading Superman fans are, and internationally.

[adkal]

No, it really wouldn't.

Very few people want this change. Very few people are vehemently opposed to this change.

At this point in time.

Most media consumers are, I suspect, like me; they don't care.

It's not that they don't care, but that they don't know. Yet.

If it was to happen...

oboy...

[Ian Pressman]

To those who are saying "It's not that I'm homophobic, it's that it's not in character, and it'll hurt the franchise!"....just stop. Just stop trying to justify it, because you're not fooling anyone, and it's making you look cowardly in addition to homophobic.

Or, people might not be homophobic and could genuinely believe that it's not in character and it'll hurt the franchise. People disagree with you; that doesn't put them on the 'wrong' side of a debate anymore than it automatically places you on the 'right' side. Vitriolic statements don't accomplish anything except thread derailment.

I would drop it, because I am not interested in reading a comic book with a gay lead character. Do not get me wrong, I would not rant on the internet about it or write angry letters to DC or do stuff like that. I would just drop the book, because it would not be my cup of tea anymore.

I'd wait and see if the writing was any good first. Gay leads don't bother me, as long as they aren't boring.

[Space_Butler]

LOL.. Well I'm angry about the thought of this God D@mn It..

But that's just it, it's a thought. Why aren't you equally mad about the thought of them permanently changing Superman to be an ape? Or that he is given antennas and green skin? Or that his powers are no longer derived from the sun but by eating bran? All of these scenarios are equally as likely as them changing Superman to be gay, which is why the reaction to such a far-fetched thought to begin with seems so absolutely insane to me. And it's not only insane, it's unnecessary.

I don't know about the rest to you, who seem determined to get bent out of shape over something that is not going to happen anyway, but I'm voting this thread one and moving on.