Ultimates #11 Discussion/Spoilers - Review by Plawsky

[robcastor729]

Do we get a lineup of the West Coast Ultimates?

[Balfro]

my guess is Tony and the President made a plan to have Tony delivered to Reed under the pretense that the President was turning on Tony. Now Tony is in te City where he can unleash his newest armor and assassinate Reed. Or, at the very least, remove Reeds helmet and reveal to his children that he's imperfect and unfit to be their leader.

Also, I love the new Giant-Man Squad. The fact that there's also Giant-Women makes it even sweeter!

[Number_5]

my guess is Tony and the President made a plan to have Tony delivered to Reed under the pretense that the President was turning on Tony. Now Tony is in te City where he can unleash his newest armor and assassinate Reed. Or, at the very least, remove Reeds helmet and reveal to his children that he's imperfect and unfit to be their leader.

Also, I love the new Giant-Man Squad. The fact that there's also Giant-Women makes it even sweeter!

I agree that the president betraying Tony is actually part of Tony's plan.

[JaggedFel]

IMO, interesting. Issue cannot tell who the WACOs are looks to be 7 or so. The guy at the end I am guessing is a Kratos close member. Clearly part of TOny's plan wonder how Modi will affect that plot. Also big question Where in the World is Nick Fury?

[nosocialize100]

So Tony's plan is by far the funniest I have ever seen. I couldn't stop laughing. So they are going to build a giant suit and kick the city into outer space and say good bye. at least that is what I got out of his plan.

Monica is so badass. Now she is a Brilliant, strong, independent, and all around awesome woman. and at least when she gets in a fight with her man she doesn't try to kill him but instead reconciles with him like normal f@cking people. I'm talking to you Sue Storm.

Also It's quite obvious that Nick Fury reverse engineered "The Serum" already. How else are the West Coast Ultimates going to have powers? The problem will be controlling them.

Yeah…I'm confused as well. I'm very meh on this, although I'm coming in completely fresh. I reviewed it here: http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...-weekly-53012/

[Kurolegacy]

I agree that the president betraying Tony is actually part of Tony's plan.

I agree as well, especially since Tony mentioned in his plan was to appeal to Reed's ego, something that the President's conversation with him showed. It does make sense though. If there's any weakness to Reed, it's his ego.

[Balfro]

I wonder what Young Tony's involvement meant... If Tony really is speaking to himself then perhaps he has built an Iron Monger that he can control remotely via his nanites and it will distract Reed while Tony suites up, or will cause enough of a distraction to allow the rest of the Ultimates and Sue/Ben to enter the City... I ccan't even begin to think what the mini model could represent.

Also, are there multiple War Machine's?

[Plawsky]

An interesting side note:

Hugo Lopez is a one-appearance character from an old (1981) story in Avengers #203. That story involved some genetically created beings, though Hugo wasn't involved in their creation. This may be coincidental, or it could be another cool reference by Hickman, like Modi.

[Codah]

I wonder what Young Tony's involvement meant... If Tony really is speaking to himself then perhaps he has built an Iron Monger that he can control remotely via his nanites and it will distract Reed while Tony suites up, or will cause enough of a distraction to allow the rest of the Ultimates and Sue/Ben to enter the City... I ccan't even begin to think what the mini model could represent.

Also, are there multiple War Machine's?

That's what I got from it, which sounds awesome. And yes, there is a War Machine brigade. I'm kinda starting to side with people who don't love Luke Ross' work. It was still serviceable but there are some confusing parts as well. He's still streets ahead of what I'm assuming Tan's art will look like once he gets on board. I'm still real bummed about that. Fantastic issue otherwise though. I wish we could have seen the West Coast team but considering how soon DWF, I assume we won't have to wait much longer.

[Wolverine12]

This was a good issue, but definitely not as good as the last few. That's not really saying much though because the first 10 issues were pretty damn amazing. I am betting that Lopez will activate the Wackos and they will free Monica, Hawkeye and Falcon. I felt that the whole Republic of Texas thing was out of left field, but it does tie into UCXM since apparently the US has abandoned the SW states. I know the red headed guy was a Kratos member but for a split second I thought is was Emil Burbank from the Supreme Power universe, now that would be freaking awesome.

Another thing that stood out to me was that Reed actually was acting and talking like a villain. So far his actions have been villainous but his dialogue has still sounded like Reed Richards. Today's issue made him sound "not himself" if that makes sense to anyone.

[Codah]

This was a good issue, but definitely not as good as the last few. That's not really saying much though because the first 10 issues were pretty damn amazing. I am betting that Lopez will activate the Wackos and they will free Monica, Hawkeye and Falcon. I felt that the whole Republic of Texas thing was out of left field, but it does tie into UCXM since apparently the US has abandoned the SW states. I know the red headed guy was a Kratos member but for a split second I thought is was Emil Burbank from the Supreme Power universe, now that would be freaking awesome.

Another thing that stood out to me was that Reed actually was acting and talking like a villain. So far his actions have been villainous but his dialogue has still sounded like Reed Richards. Today's issue made him sound "not himself" if that makes sense to anyone.

Dude, absolutely. I should've mentioned that. Reed sounded too villainous to me as well. Maybe he's losing his mind and it's intentional?

[Kurolegacy]

Dude, absolutely. I should've mentioned that. Reed sounded too villainous to me as well. Maybe he's losing his mind and it's intentional?

Not only that but he's talking about while they may not understand what he's doing that they could at least show some respect. Seriously sounds more like things Doom would say than Reed.

Also I wonder just who it was that was in those tubes as well as just who took down Widow. We don't know many people with lightning and Thor was with Tony and no way it's Storm.

[Codah]

Not only that but he's talking about while they may not understand what he's doing that they could at least show some respect. Seriously sounds more like things Doom would say than Reed.

Also I wonder just who it was that was in those tubes as well as just who took down Widow. We don't know many people with lightning and Thor was with Tony and no way it's Storm.

The way it was worded made it sound like they were deploying some electro-shock tech. That's the way I took it anyway.

[Hostile_17]

I think we are going to get a Giant Mech battle next issue!! Between Tony's new tech and The City it's self with that new program that allows it to transform

[Fizicks]

Next issue better be oversized to wrap up this epic story and all this build up...I have such high expectations for this book. Also hope that Hickman is doing most of the writing...nothing against Humphries but the quality of the last 2 issues, while still great, has not been quite up to par with previous ones.

I'm glad to see that Humphries is adding so many new elements to the series.

How do you know which parts are Humphries' addition?

Or, at the very least, remove Reeds helmet and reveal to his children that he's imperfect and unfit to be their leader.

I've always assumed since issue 4 that the Children know about his face. When Reed revealed his face to Thor, the Children were around him.

Monica is so badass. Now she is a Brilliant, strong, independent, and all around awesome woman. and at least when she gets in a fight with her man she doesn't try to kill him but instead reconciles with him like normal f@cking people. I'm talking to you Sue Storm.

Quoted for truth.

Another thing that stood out to me was that Reed actually was acting and talking like a villain. So far his actions have been villainous but his dialogue has still sounded like Reed Richards. Today's issue made him sound "not himself" if that makes sense to anyone.

Ugh, just a speculation, but might be Humphries.