JLD, The Book I Hate to Love

[Outside_85]

Comics, by their very nature, tend to attract adjectives. Justice League: Dark, for example, has been described as slow, plodding, directionless, and meandering. Which absolutely sucks. I love Constantine. I love Zatanna. Milligan's Shade run was amazing, and Deadman is cool. Putting these guys together should be a no-brainer, right?

Its funny because those words I've bolded are pretty much how I see John's Justice League, who JLD beats on so many levels it's embarrassing.

[Desaad]

Of course Constantine could be on a team. Not a typical superhero team, sure, but he's got PLENTY of friends, had plenty of relationships throughout his career. One need only look at his first appearance to see him assembling a team of helpful, like minded individuals. Sure they didn't have super powers, but they believed in the occult.

[Desaad]

As one who really enjoyed Milligan's run (although the ending to the first arc was rather pointlesss)...I do hope Lemire finds a balance between characterisation and team action. It should not be one or the other.
I love wot he's doing with Animal Man...so I'm not worried, really.

I think we'll find that all the characters have concise characterization that is well done, but that we won't be seeing that much character development.

You look at something like Grant Morrison's JLA, and I'd argue that we had some very good character moments, but that it was a plot driven book. I have a feeling we'll be getting something more in line with that.

[Desaad]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really liked Milligan's brief run and wish he'd stayed a bit longer.

That said, I know Lemire will be awesome.

I don't see how the two are irreconcilable in the least, and I agree.

I loved Milligan's JLD for what it was. I think I'll love Lemire's JLD for what it is, as well, even if 'what it is' is very different.

[CjP]

Of course Constantine could be on a team. Not a typical superhero team, sure, but he's got PLENTY of friends, had plenty of relationships throughout his career. One need only look at his first appearance to see him assembling a team of helpful, like minded individuals. Sure they didn't have super powers, but they believed in the occult.

It's been a while since I read the early Hellblazers, but didn't most of those helpful, like minded individuals either end up dead or hating him for screwing them over in some way?

[Fate's Faith]

It's been a while since I read the early Hellblazers, but didn't most of those helpful, like minded individuals either end up dead or hating him for screwing them over in some way?

I hated to really like a character that was just introduced because I know it wasn't going to end well.

[Desaad]

It's been a while since I read the early Hellblazers, but didn't most of those helpful, like minded individuals either end up dead or hating him for screwing them over in some way?

Oh, absolutely, EVENTUALLY.

But Lemire said it best; his ability is one of persuasion. It makes total sense that he'll get people to help him do what needs be done.

And if you'll look at Lemire's plan, it's very much to have all the other characters rotate. Deadman can't die, by definition, and Zatanna has been 'putting up' with Constantine for years now, so it's no surprise that they'll be around.

Everyone else need only tolerate him for an arc or two, from the sounds of things, save for Black Orchid who I suspect is going to be Abbey, and come with her own baggage.