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    These are just random comments, but they might spoil details for people who haven't read yet--so, you are warned!




    I liked that Heph, Hermes, Eros, Lennox and Zola sound like us arguing about last issue.

    I LOVE what Heph whispers to Zola: "Don't worry about Wonder Woman. She doesn't need saving." Again, I almost think he's telling that to us. It seems pretty clear that Heph has a plan; he jokes (I hope!) that he doesn't know what he was thinking when he gave WW the guns. I think Eros may be the companion who is not to be trusted, and the hints at Hermes may have been misdirection.

    What Heph says to Zola about Hermes (just before the "don't worry" comment) is also interesting, though:"And you, girl, are very lucky to have a champion so steadfast, even though it pains him to be." Pains him because it's not his nature to be steadfast, or because he wishes he could go rescue Wonder Woman? Both? Azz is doing a good job of making this ambiguous (azzbiguous?). And yes, i see that as a good thing--though it's the kind of thing that makes it hard to wait for the next issue.

    So, if she doesn't need saving, what is this "gift" that Heph and company are delivering to Hades? Something that will stop Hades from being able to bring Zola back?

    Hades to Wonder Woman: "Is your will that strong?" Um, yeah. Yes, I believe that it is.

    Maybe Heph's comments about the lasso a couple of issues ago will be the key to her surviving Strife's little scheme. Wonder Woman won't be "intimidated," and perhaps her will is so strong that she can resist her own lasso.

    Or maybe Wonder Woman's mortal form will be destroyed and her godly self will be unleashed--which might be too bad for Hades, and might be part of Strife's plan.

    The scenes with Persephone reminded me of Marston's Wonder Woman 2--Wonder Woman's first visit to a hell (Mars' prison of souls). Diana is given Lord Conquest's ex-wife as her slave-girl attendant; Diana would free her, but the girl won't leave. (As Diana tells Steve, "The silly thing went back to her husband. She said Lord Conquest would be interested in conquering her again because she had escaped.) I think Azz reads some of the old issues closer than people think. And I hope Azz's Wonder Woman will have better luck and will spring Persephone out of hell. Maybe she'll become a regular part of the supporting cast.
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    All I could think trought this issue was "Man, Cliff Chiang would have really rocked the artworks".
    I know it's unfair, but Akins just doesn't come near. The close-ups on some characters are good, and so the expressions, but the rest is uncanny valley worthy.

    Very interesting, wasn't blown away by it. The characters are strong, the plot is fascinating, the artworks just doesn't do it for me.

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    Does Diana look any better than she did when last he drew her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imraith Nimphais View Post
    Does Diana look any better than she did when last he drew her?
    She's substantially greener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slvn View Post
    I liked that Heph, Hermes, Eros, Lennox and Zola sound like us arguing about last issue.

    I LOVE what Heph whispers to Zola: "Don't worry about Wonder Woman. She doesn't need saving." Again, I almost think he's telling that to us. It seems pretty clear that Heph has a plan; he jokes (I hope!) that he doesn't know what he was thinking when he gave WW the guns. I think Eros may be the companion who is not to be trusted, and the hints at Hermes may have been misdirection.
    Quote Originally Posted by WhitOro View Post
    All I could think trought this issue was "Man, Cliff Chiang would have really rocked the artworks".
    I know it's unfair, but Akins just doesn't come near. The close-ups on some characters are good, and so the expressions, but the rest is uncanny valley worthy.

    Very interesting, wasn't blown away by it. The characters are strong, the plot is fascinating, the artworks just doesn't do it for me.
    I second these.

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    I liked this issue, but the truth is that not much happened. And the worst part is that it will fuel all the people who say she's a supporting member in her book. I dont think i'll be able to stay here until the next issue. You guys are gonna have so much fun arguing about that.

    I loved every new design we got (particularly Hades' throne and Diana's dress), except those dog women. Man that was weird as hell! They even had multiple boobs!

    The plot is going well, but it really needs to pick up the pace. I cant believe i need to wait another month to see what happens to Diana.

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    I wanted to see Aphrodite! Anyway good issue. The symbolism with the gods wasn't that deep, but I do think it was a nice touch. I thought Azz's take on Cerebrus was hilarious. So was that Cronus who was strapped at the throne?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    I wanted to see Aphrodite! Anyway good issue. The symbolism with the gods wasn't that deep, but I do think it was a nice touch.
    What symbolism? What do you mean?
    I thought Azz's take on Cerebrus was hilarious.
    You mean Cerberus? We already saw him when he attacked Lennox in London.
    So was that Cronus who was strapped at the throne?
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    Although I missed Chiang's art, Akins actually did a much better job than in his previous issues and all these fascinating characters and their personalities are great, Strife is just so fun to read.

    Pretty strong issue overall, this run is magnificent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    So was that Cronus who was strapped at the throne?
    Borrowed almost straight from Goya....

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    That was a fun issue. I think Akins was the better choice for this than Chiang. As much as I love Chiang's work, AKins draws a much better monster and I don't think hiang could have pulled off Cronus or the dog ladies half as well.

    And looks like Slvn wins, Diana was completely in control of her own faculties. Though I do wonder if her being taken was part of the plan, or it was just fortunate that her will is strong enough to overcome Eros' guns. Diana is a much better actress than I thought she'd be. ANd I love that the bullet wound is still there, that's a nice touch.

    Strife stirring up **** is always fun. Loved their take on Aphrodite, who's clearly too beautiful to be shown; Hermes looked very pleased to see her., though I imagine everyone is pleased to see her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imraith Nimphais View Post
    Does Diana look any better than she did when last he drew her?
    Yes. AKins has stepped up his game considerably. Though his Diana is nowhere near as good as Chiang's.

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    As always Wonder Woman is a great comic and I enjoyed the pages with Hephaestus, Hermes, Eros, Lennox and Zola a lot.

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    Can someone explain to me these two things?

    1) The deal with Persephone. Did she cut her own wrists? I mean, what exactly happened, how did she try to escape and how did Hades punish her?
    2) "But hers are clawed" says Strife to Hades. She's talking about something of Diana's but i didnt understand what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomFalls View Post
    That was a fun issue. I think Akins was the better choice for this than Chiang. As much as I love Chiang's work, AKins draws a much better monster and I don't think hiang could have pulled off Cronus or the dog ladies half as well.

    And looks like Slvn wins, Diana was completely in control of her own faculties. Though I do wonder if her being taken was part of the plan, or it was just fortunate that her will is strong enough to overcome Eros' guns. Diana is a much better actress than I thought she'd be. ANd I love that the bullet wound is still there, that's a nice touch.
    I personally wanted the wound to be healed. I wanted it to be a more metaphorical bullet than a real one.
    Strife stirring up **** is always fun. Loved their take on Aphrodite, who's clearly too beautiful to be shown; Hermes looked very pleased to see her., though I imagine everyone is pleased to see her.
    She's the first god(dess) to not get a redesign. I wanted some cool design for her too, or at least to see her fully. Perhaps they could cover her naughty parts with sea shells?

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    I just love the idea that Aphrodite is so beautiful art can't really describe her, so we never see her face. It's left to the reader to project their own sense of beauty on the character.
    It reminds me of those old religious movies like Ben Hur and The Robe where Christ's presence is all the more emphasized because we can't see his face.
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