Spider-Man: Ends of the Earth. One-shot Spoilers and Discussion

[E. Wilson]

This book puzzled me. Marvel has to reach deep into their vaults to make me say, "Who the #$^& is that?", but I found myself doing it several times.

[ShaggyB]

Problem was, bioware lumped the downloadable content in with the exclusive stuff, everyone had their reasons to buy collectors edition the DLC was mine.

EDIT: IT just ticked me off saying DLC for some reason, I'm having a bad day. I bought some bad books but being a sucker who buys a book where the story isn't what sells it just pisses me off.

oh i understand, just pointing out that your reason for buying is not what the $20 charge is for... its more how you justified the purchase (and yes ive done that before too, its just the charge is for all that stuff not just the stuff you really wanted. Arkham City Collectors Edition dlc comes to mind... but that statue is worth it too... but i didnt buy it for that). plus unless those weapons, robodog and other costumes are unlockable... they arent in the dlc you can get on xbox live or psn.

[stewart48]

I bought the book with the expectations people were going to die, considering some of the dialogue within spidey, and the marketing at the end of spidey's last issue telling readers to learn the fate of these characters.

I guess the one advantage i have with digital that I think some people arent getting is, you do see Sabra face down in a pool of blood around her head, you do see the blood spatter coming from her head in the scene she gets shot.

You do see blood and Lady Deathstrike's claws going through Kangaroo and the blood trail.

I get the characters can just comeback like nothing happened in comics, but the intent of the scenes was to make the reader believe that these people died...

...and the only reason they died is to set up a cheap third grade creative writing cliche of killing off killing off killing off or losing, losing and losing again to set up the miraculous singular success at the end in some sort of lame attempt to elicit triumph after the everyone else clearly fails.

[Darthfury78]

I bought the book with the expectations people were going to die, considering some of the dialogue within spidey, and the marketing at the end of spidey's last issue telling readers to learn the fate of these characters.

I guess the one advantage i have with digital that I think some people arent getting is, you do see Sabra face down in a pool of blood around her head, you do see the blood spatter coming from her head in the scene she gets shot.

You do see blood and Lady Deathstrike's claws going through Kangaroo and the blood trail.

I get the characters can just comeback like nothing happened in comics, but the intent of the scenes was to make the reader believe that these people died...

...and the only reason they died is to set up a cheap third grade creative writing cliche of killing off killing off killing off or losing, losing and losing again to set up the miraculous singular success at the end in some sort of lame attempt to elicit triumph after the everyone else clearly fails.

I thought that the one shot issue was going to provide some meaningful information. Anyway, here is a link that describes my opinion on the book after reading it:

http://tundraandtimber.wordpress.com...1/23/spiderma/

[CMBMOOL]

I thought that the one shot issue was going to provide some meaningful information. Anyway, here is a link that describes my opinion on the book after reading it:

http://tundraandtimber.wordpress.com...1/23/spiderma/

Well Since OMD it has been just as you described it.

[ShaggyB]

Well Since OMD it has been just as you described it.

I thought you werent reading the book currently? did that change? If not then I question how you'd be able to state that with any degree of certainty.

[CMBMOOL]

I thought you werent reading the book currently? did that change? If not then I question how you'd be able to state that with any degree of certainty.

Oh I am reading the book whenever I can, it just that there were some stories in the BND world that wasn't very good...like the whole Jackpot idea for example.

And don't forget the Menace idea.

It just that the current Stories that Slott's pouring out is some of his good work within Marvel, at certain times...I mean while I am a shipper for MJ/Peter, I was a bit annoyed with how the whole Carlie situation turned out.

[Selphy]

I just read the issue. And I'm not sure how I feel. Part one was almost entirely just watching people die. Kangaroo guy and the Israeli girl although it doesn't explicitly show they're dead. The guy got stabbed in the face region but it COULD shake it off. Sabra get shot but it doesn't show exactly where. For all we know, she could have gotten hit in the chest region.

Part two was better but the bantering between characters wasn't all that interesting my opinion. It felt a bit TOO juvenile to me.

[Darthfury78]

It just that the current Stories that Slott's pouring out is some of his good work within Marvel, at certain times...I mean while I am a shipper for MJ/Peter, I was a bit annoyed with how the whole Carlie situation turned out.

I thought that the Carlie Cooper situation was rushed. I felt that she and Peter should have taken their time instead of going into a romantic relationship right away. However, I feel that Peter should not engage in a relationship with anyone and simply enjoy being single for a time. There is no rush with going into a relationship that doesn't start off as a mutual relationship first and develop it over a period of time. It would have been cool to have seen a redevelopment of Peter's mutual relationship with Betty Brant and Liz Allan in the previous stories as well, in addition to Mary Jane.

[Trallis]

I totally agree on this, and I'm not a very tough critic. It's not about the fact that the characters are lesser known either. It's that it was lame and boring, and totally inconsequential to the Ends of the Earth story. multiple fights that each end in 5 seconds. Union Jack was kickass and I totally want to see more of him, but he wasn't enough to save this comic.

[wiski]

SPOILERS in the comments below

I feel a bit weird starting a thread to say this but I figured if I'm starting the thread might as well be honest

do not buy this book!!!

It is bad, really bad.

I really liked the second story (better writer than the first), and thought the first wasn't wasn't that bad. I did think the artwork made some of the women look like transvestites though. (not sure if I'm looking forward to this guy drawing Venom coming up)

[The Mean Bean]

I enjoyed the first story, I didn't take any of those characters to be dead, didn't see it as being implied, they were just having a hard time of it. I just barely skimmed through the second story, because who the hell are Big Hero 6? As event tie-ins go it's basically what you'd expect, but charging $3.99 is taking the piss, wouldn't have bought it if I'd have realised.

[mugiwara]

So it is another case of "foreign super heroes suck, good thing that there is an american guy here to do the job" mixed with "known villain kills an obscure super hero with insane ease, because comics fights are nothing more that popularity contests (see AvX)".

At this point, I just hope Doc Ock kills Spidey and Black Widow before dying.

[Blackknight75]

Dear Mr Williams and Mr Silas

Just a small criticism of your two page piece about the Australian hero, The Kangaroo. No, I am not objecting to the stereotype way you have depicted an Australian character, or the fact he wears a mechanical kangaroo suit, or even the somewhat cockney accent he appears to be speaking in. Much like that famous episode of the Simpsons, I had a good laugh at all of this.

What I did object to is the brand of beer The Kangaroo is shown to be drinking while on his mission. Australians do not drink Fosters beer. That is the stuff we export to overseas pubs and bars because no-one here drinks it. It can best described in the words of the Bruce's from Monty Python as "making love in a canoe". If you have sampled this beer while visiting a bar or pub in America, I do apologise. We do make better beers, but we just don't choose to share them with the rest of the world.

I would invite you both, plus Mr Slott to visit Australia and sample many of our fine brews that we have to offer (just avoid the Victoria Bitter).

[Rob London]

Dear Mr Williams and Mr Silas

Just a small criticism of your two page piece about the Australian hero, The Kangaroo. No, I am not objecting to the stereotype way you have depicted an Australian character, or the fact he wears a mechanical kangaroo suit, or even the somewhat cockney accent he appears to be speaking in. Much like that famous episode of the Simpsons, I had a good laugh at all of this.

What I did object to is the brand of beer The Kangaroo is shown to be drinking while on his mission. Australians do not drink Fosters beer. That is the stuff we export to overseas pubs and bars because no-one here drinks it. It can best described in the words of the Bruce's from Monty Python as "making love in a canoe". If you have sampled this beer while visiting a bar or pub in America, I do apologise. We do make better beers, but we just don't choose to share them with the rest of the world.

I would invite you both, plus Mr Slott to visit Australia and sample many of our fine brews that we have to offer (just avoid the Victoria Bitter).

Ah, but you see - the Kangaroo's taste in beer is entirely appropriate. For, as we learn in Spectacular Spider-Man #244, Brian Hibbs idolized the original Kangaroo, Frank Oliver, and imitates his speech and mannerisms...but isn't actually Australian. Thus, what he knows about Australia is probably gleaned entirely from Outback Steakhouse commercials, Yahoo Serious movies, and the video for Men At Work's "Land Down Under". He's exactly the kind of person who drinks Foster's.