Why are Democrats having a hard time getting blue collar white Dem voters?

[dupont2005]

What little blue collar there is tends to be union. Union tends to vote dem. retired seniors aren't the blue collar demographic

[mikekerrIII]

What little blue collar there is tends to be union. Union tends to vote dem. retired seniors aren't the blue collar demographic

There are a LOT of blue collar folks, and a majority of them are not Union except in a few states.Union workers are a shrinking minority

[dupersuper]

Union workers are a shrinking minority

Sad but true.

[needler420]

Because they're too busy spending republicans money

[Vibranium]

Because they're too busy spending republicans money

and being mad at minorities who do their jobs better and cheaper because they haven't been brainwashed by the unions

[Winslow]

Because they're too busy spending republicans money

Is it too much to ask you to post a coherent and intelligent thought rather than mindless binary sound bytes?

Nevermind, I think I know the answer.

and being mad at minorities who do their jobs better and cheaper because they haven't been brainwashed by the unions

This isn't even remotely close to being true for construction and manufacturing trades. It is 3 to 5 times cheaper to build with construction labor than third world labor.

[Vibranium]

I didn't mean "third world labor", I just meant people who know a trade and have no desire or use to be in a union

[jesse_custer]

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, race obviously plays a factor in this. How big or small is the question.

[Arvandor]

This isn't even remotely close to being true for construction and manufacturing trades. It is 3 to 5 times cheaper to build with construction labor than third world labor.

Unless your factory is being managed by morons. In which case they will hire unskilled third world labour, pay them peanuts while expecting them to do the same work as the rest of us (and be surprised when they cant), take advantage of their nonexistent rights - and call the rest of us racist for pointing out why this doesn't work.

[Vibranium]

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, race obviously plays a factor in this. How big or small is the question.

yea..well can't have a darkie in the White House telling the God Fearing White Man what to do

[Kees_L]

i was watching Hardball and they was talking about how Obama have to depend on the minority vote cause he's having a hard time getting blue collar white dems to vote for him. why is that? is that just a dem problem in general or is it because of Obama specifically?

I never watch Hardball and I'm not an American.
But I can respond in this way: your question seems to imply a couple of stuff:

A) that non-white blue collar dems can be expected to be voting Obama just like that (I personally don't know about that);
B) that Obama is in office only due to people voting for such instead of anything different (sounding true enough albeit onesidedly);
C) that for white blue collar minority voters things may need to be necessarily different than for non-white blue collar voters (seems a stretch to me).

Maybe 'the minority vote' both as 'the blue collar white dems' will both be the number of votes that will be hanging in the air right up to the last stages of the coming elections?
If so than that is of significance.
Because last-minute voters are likely a type of people that may vote should they really feel like it, not in a fixed sense but more rather ïn a "let's do this quick cuz I ain't no expert" fashion.
Expectedly a high number of such non-fixed voters will exist out there. So the getting of such voters behind you will be a thing for just any politician or party in any rather modern individualist "first-world" countries. For either very mouthy or hard-liner populists, bóth as more rather problem-solver-types or "Yes We Can"-kind-of movements.

That's what I can say.

[Michael P]

It's worth noting that "minority" births are now outpacing white births.

[Nick Soapdish]

I may have missed that? Where were the Republicans as casualty dismmisive of rural whites as Obama was with his guns and Bibles line.

See just about any Romney quote.

The Blue-dog Democrats are about as well recived in the Democratic party as Rhino's are in the Republican party.

Two differences.

They still exist. The last RINOs that I saw getting labeled as such were Charlie Crist (last seen as an independent) and John McCain even though he had a more conservative voting record than Santorum. If you're going to use that wide of a brush to paint moderates, then you'll lose 2/3 of the Democratic Party.

And they're respected enough that Heath Shuler received votes from a quarter of Democrats to unseat Nancy Pelosi as minority leader. Shuler was actually recruited to run for office by Rahm Emmanuel.

For example watch what happens here if some makes a anti-gun control statement, or states that regulators often go to far.

This message board isn't exactly a reflection of the Democratic Party.

As to going too far with gun control/rights, it's hardly a Democratic monopoly to wonder if Florida's Stand Your Ground law is too broad. Governor Rick Scott formed a commission to review the law. I fully expect that the commission will think that it's fine, especially since it's loaded with lawmakers that voted on the original bill. But the idea that he thinks that he has to make the effort when the Republicans control over 2/3 of both houses is suggestive.

[JeffreyWKramer]

It's worth noting that "minority" births are now outpacing white births.

Which frightens the hell out of a lot of the people who make up the GOP base. And also some in the Democratic base, though not in as high a proportion.

[o1pickleboy]

It's worth noting that "minority" births are now outpacing white births.

Also worth noting is that "minorities" live in big numbers only in a few states. That until there is a change here they won't be much of a change in the Senate.