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    Default Clark Kent vs Composite Movie Marvel

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    This is a stacked Composite. This is Live action marvel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becoming An Anthropologist View Post
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    This is a stacked Composite. This is Live action marvel.
    That's a whole lot of incidental/ cannon fodder mutants standing around in the background.

    Considering Clark's ability to speed blitz, it seems to me it depends on whether he gets the Surfer right away and Xavier and also whether there's anything he can do against Galactus.

    I haven't thought this out beyond that but, with no prep, it just comes down to numbers and who he chooses to speedblitz rght at the start and whether he can get all the ones who could take him out if they ever got to do anything. Also, whether there are some (like Galactus) that he can't effect.

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    If the speedblitz doesn't work, then Clark would have trouble since the CMM character also has the ability to make copies of itself thanks to movie Jamie Madrox's mutant powers.

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    Speed gets stacked so speedblitzing may not be easy.

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    I am thinking that even with the stacked composite that Comic Clark can still blitz here.
    Other ones I am not super familiar with so I do not know.
    Though with Stacked Durability it may be possible that the thing gets to act with both speed and durability stacking up.. Ugh.
    Hard to say.
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    Actually, if you count the Surfer surviving his super-boom thingy then I am positive that Clark loses.
    Even without it, the more I think about it the more unlikely it is that he can put the amalgamation down before it acts...
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    Imagine a stacked:

    Thing/Surfer/Thor/Hulk/Juggernaut/Colossus durability and strength
    Origins/X3 Logan/Victor/Barakapool healing factor
    Kurt, Wraith, Barakapool teleport
    Zero, Wade, Quicksilver, Calisto BT-to-superspeed (plus the speed of everyone else stacked)
    Xavier/Frost/Jean telepathy
    Magneto - Magnetoness
    Surfer/Doom - general energy projection
    Surfer - energy manipulation and transmutation, plus the Galactus Boom
    Pryde/Surfer - phasing
    Madrox - to make as many of these guys as we like.
    Jean/Phoenix - TK
    Sue - forcefields and invisibility
    Johnny - Flaming plus added heat resistance
    Bobby - Cold resistance and control.
    Logan / Barakapool - Adamantium skeleton and claws (extra durability never hurts)

    Even fast Clark probably gets eventually dogpiled - the comp WILL get to act, since I don't really know that Kal-el can truly hurt them, so his speed isn't going to be enough. He's going to be fighting A LOT of intangible, indestructible, pretty fast, force-fielded, invisible, strong-as-hell energy manipulators who are additionally immune to heat and cold.

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    Yeah, Clark wails on the composite for a bit to absolutely no effect, then..... TP blammo. Clark's brain takes a nap.
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    When was Quicksilver in a movie?

    For Healing factor you forgot Hulk from 2003. He probably had the best one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Imagine a stacked:

    Thing/Surfer/Thor/Hulk/Juggernaut/Colossus durability and strength
    Origins/X3 Logan/Victor/Barakapool healing factor
    Kurt, Wraith, Barakapool teleport
    Zero, Wade, Quicksilver, Calisto BT-to-superspeed (plus the speed of everyone else stacked)
    Xavier/Frost/Jean telepathy
    Magneto - Magnetoness
    Surfer/Doom - general energy projection
    Surfer - energy manipulation and transmutation, plus the Galactus Boom
    Pryde/Surfer - phasing
    Madrox - to make as many of these guys as we like.
    Jean/Phoenix - TK
    Sue - forcefields and invisibility
    Johnny - Flaming plus added heat resistance
    Bobby - Cold resistance and control.
    Logan / Barakapool - Adamantium skeleton and claws (extra durability never hurts)

    Even fast Clark probably gets eventually dogpiled - the comp WILL get to act, since I don't really know that Kal-el can truly hurt them, so his speed isn't going to be enough. He's going to be fighting A LOT of intangible, indestructible, pretty fast, force-fielded, invisible, strong-as-hell energy manipulators who are additionally immune to heat and cold.
    The only thing that matters here is SPEED.

    The composite won't get to act in time. Even with everyone in live Marvel's speed stacked, that's pure molasses to comic Superman (pre-DCnu anyway...) who's been shown to go from Earth to the Sun in less than eight minutes or from the Earth to Saturn in FOUR minutes. He's faster than light when he wants to be and there's numerous occasions to prove it. This is just one of many:



    Composite Marvel gets hit a million times with the moon-shattering strength of Superman,

    Live Marvel hasn't shown ANY sort of durability to withstand even a few dozen all-out punches from Comic Superman:



    As for offense? Nothing Live Marvel has on that list (with the possible exception of Galactus which is iffy because Superman's survived black holes and planetary explosions with no problems) has the firepower to harm him. Movie Surfer doesn't have anything. Neither does Movie Phoenix.

    Telepathy? Too bad, Comic Superman is VERY resistant to telepathy to the point that even Martian Manhunter has trouble scanning his mind. Not to mention that T-Vo crap he learned awhile back.

    Comic Superman stomps 10/10
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    Uh, in that second scan didn't Supes KO himself on that Moon?

    I'm not seeing moon busting strength in every single punch.

    Add in the stacked durability (Hulk (both Versions), Thor, Odin, All of the frost giants, The Destroyer, Juggernaut, Collosus, Silver Surfer, Thing, Metal Doom, Brakapool)

    Then the Regen: Hulk 2003, Wolverine, Sabretooth, Brakapool's, The Destoyers)

    With the speed being stacked, SS, Spiderman, Deadpool, Hulk, Loki, Thor

    And the fact he'll be made out of Sand, I'm not seeing how Supes takes him out before he thinks. Once he thinks he phases and the match is over...

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    Smallville and DCAU does down. DCnU goes down.

    Classic Superman and/or PC Superman still wins. Composite Marvel isn't fast enough to handle class 100 speed blitz on that scale.

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    Pre-crisis is a different beast, he wins easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holacik View Post
    Uh, in that second scan didn't Supes KO himself on that Moon?

    I'm not seeing moon busting strength in every single punch.

    Add in the stacked durability (Hulk (both Versions), Thor, Odin, All of the frost giants, The Destroyer, Juggernaut, Collosus, Silver Surfer, Thing, Metal Doom, Brakapool)

    Then the Regen: Hulk 2003, Wolverine, Sabretooth, Brakapool's, The Destoyers)

    With the speed being stacked, SS, Spiderman, Deadpool, Hulk, Loki, Thor

    And the fact he'll be made out of Sand, I'm not seeing how Supes takes him out before he thinks. Once he thinks he phases and the match is over...
    Regardless if Superman KOed himself or not, it shows the raw POWER behind his attacks. He's not gonna KO himself slamming into Composite Marvel.....

    The stacked durability hasn't shown ANYTHING that suggests that he/she can survive Superman's offensive output. Comic-versions? Absolutely. Movie-versions? Hell no.

    Regen doesn't matter when someone who can shatter continents is hitting you a million times per second.

    Their speed stacked is absolutely no comparison to Comic Superman. Even if you multiply it by a thousand.

    Being made of sand will not protect you from Comic Superman's pure force output of his punch.

    Composite Marvel will literally disintegrate from Superman's punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets& Bracelets View Post
    <snip..all valid points >
    As for offense? Nothing Live Marvel has on that list (with the possible exception of Galactus which is iffy because Superman's survived black holes and planetary explosions with no problems) has the firepower to harm him. Movie Surfer doesn't have anything. Neither does Movie Phoenix.

    Telepathy? Too bad, Comic Superman is VERY resistant to telepathy to the point that even Martian Manhunter has trouble scanning his mind. Not to mention that T-Vo crap he learned awhile back.

    Comic Superman stomps 10/10
    A) Thor, Loki, frost Gods will hurt Superman. Superman's weakness against Magic works against him in that case.
    B) I doubt that Composite Marvel will be able to get it off, but Penance Stare (Ghost Rider) should KO superman.

    It's not a pure 10/10 for Comic Superman.

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