"The Avengers" Becomes Top Comic Book Adaptation Worldwide

[Simbob4000]

Your signature is unintentionally funny.

What...you didn't know we are living in a post-Avengers world now? When people talk about things (not just movies) from now on they'll only refer to it as per or post Avengers. This movie is a game changer, from now on every movie with any kind of group will be preceded by smaller movies introducing the character to maximize potential profit.

[hotrodimus]

i'd like to believe that marvel has indeed crushed DC in all areas.. movies, comics, toys..... but it still cannot hold true for games and cartoons unfortunately.
They had it almost going with Avengers EMH...almost.. but too late now. :( and as for the games... upcoming is ... the kinect/wii u game.. i doubt thats the arkham killer even if i wish it was

[Alex]

What...you didn't know we are living in a post-Avengers world now? When people talk about things (not just movies) from now on they'll only refer to it as per or post Avengers. This movie is a game changer, from now on every movie with any kind of group will be preceded by smaller movies introducing the character to maximize potential profit.

This is such a horrible plan that can fall on it's ass so hardcore.
Like, yes, it worked for Avengers.
But lets say they do a Justice LEague movie.
You do a new batman, new superman, and lets say Flash and Wonder Woman.
Now, assume Batman and Superman do well and critics like them, then Flash and Wonder Woman bomb at the box office. Then you do a movie where you bring the characters together, but two of the characters are associated with failure.

All the marvel movies made money, to varying degrees, but they all made money, people tended to like them, so it made sense to stick them all together. You get one shit movie in this build and you hurt your eventual super movie, and you wasted a ton of cash.

[Brad Barton]

Wow you really like Marvel.
Anyway, most of the money this movie has made came from the foreign market.
In the US market TDK is 3rd overall behind Avatar and Titanic while Avengers is down at 15.

The Avengers is at 15 right now, a few weeks into release, but it's definitely tracking to surpass TDK before it's over. Highly unlikely that it catches Titanic, and almost a certainty it won't catch Avatar, but TDK is well within reach domestically.

[Simbob4000]

This is such a horrible plan that can fall on it's ass so hardcore.
Like, yes, it worked for Avengers.
But lets say they do a Justice LEague movie.
You do a new batman, new superman, and lets say Flash and Wonder Woman.
Now, assume Batman and Superman do well and critics like them, then Flash and Wonder Woman bomb at the box office. Then you do a movie where you bring the characters together, but two of the characters are associated with failure.

All the marvel movies made money, to varying degrees, but they all made money, people tended to like them, so it made sense to stick them all together. You get one shit movie in this build and you hurt your eventual super movie, and you wasted a ton of cash.

But the beauty of it, the sheer brilliance of it is you could maybe make so much money on the team-up that it wouldn't matter. And why even stop at comic book movies? Any type of movie with characters teaming up, meeting, or clashing in some way could do it. For non pre-existing properties the movies could be written backwards, you do the meeting movie first, pick out the most interesting characters, then develop individual movies for them. If one of the characters movies underperforms then you would just down play those characters whose movies didn't do as well, maybe recast the part. It's no real surprise that Iron Man & Thor seem to loom larger in the Avengers movie than Captain America and Hulk.

It's like the stealth pilot of the movie world.

[Phil Clark]

And the problem is that now that Avengers has done so well, there is additional pressure on DC/Warner to do the same and do it better. But so far they haven't done any part of the process better. They haven't even done it as well as marvel. Most of their films since Super Heroes came into vogue have been disappointing at best, dismal failures at worst.

And that is only counting the ones that actually made it to screen. Most of their projects don't even get off the ground or take way too long to develop. They need to find someone who knows what these movies are supposed to be and just let them make a good movie, and stop trying to make the next "best ever" super hero film.

[Flyattractor]

And the problem is that now that Avengers has done so well, there is additional pressure on DC/Warner to do the same and do it better. But so far they haven't done any part of the process better. They haven't even done it as well as marvel. Most of their films since Super Heroes came into vogue have been disappointing at best, dismal failures at worst.

And that is only counting the ones that actually made it to screen. Most of their projects don't even get off the ground or take way too long to develop. They need to find someone who knows what these movies are supposed to be and just let them make a good movie, and stop trying to make the next "best ever" super hero film.

Will WB feel any pressure from this? I mean the guys at DC would love to make a movie but WB dosen't have only the comics to fall back on to make money. Why would they feel the need to make a big budget movie like JL when they can make smaller movies and make just as much money?

[jyeager11]

Batman and Superman remain two of the most well-known comics characters worldwide. There's no reason to not assume a movie like that won't make big bucks.

Superman Returns featured the most popular super hero of all time. How well did it do? Ratings for JLA cartoons haven't been spectacular either.

The individual popularity of Superman or Batman has no bearing on how well a live-action JLA movie will do.

[Flyattractor]

Superman Returns featured the most popular super hero of all time. How well did it do? Ratings for JLA cartoons haven't been spectacular either.

The individual popularity of Superman or Batman has no bearing on how well a live-action JLA movie will do.

Superman Returns bombed because the people who produced it were a bunch of idiots.
PERIOD

[Dreadstar]

Anyway, most of the money this movie has made came from the foreign market.
In the US market TDK is 3rd overall behind Avatar and Titanic while Avengers is down at 15.

Implying, of course, that the Avengers is incapable of pulling in another $152 million in domestic box office.

Anyone want to take that bet?

Superman Returns featured the most popular super hero of all time. How well did it do?

Poorly, because nobody related well to the wimp in the supersuit.

[verslibre]

Superman Returns featured the most popular super hero of all time. How well did it do?

Does this need to be discussed again? Within the last week, I said that film sucks because it's essentially a retread of the first film. The writers added new stuff to make people think otherwise, but nobody was fooled.

The individual popularity of Superman or Batman has no bearing on how well a live-action JLA movie will do.

Of course it does. Take one of them out and it will be obvious. But this isn't about a World's Finest movie, it's about a Justice League movie with six or seven players.

[verslibre]

It's no real surprise that Iron Man & Thor seem to loom larger in the Avengers movie than Captain America and Hulk.

More so than Cap? Nah.

[Phil Clark]

Will WB feel any pressure from this? I mean the guys at DC would love to make a movie but WB dosen't have only the comics to fall back on to make money. Why would they feel the need to make a big budget movie like JL when they can make smaller movies and make just as much money?

Any studio who holds any character licenses to Superheroes will most certainly be expected by management to make a movie that can do what avengers did. It is the nature of Hollywood. They did it, we can do it. The problem is that while Marvel has done it, and extremely well, DC/Warner has been unable to capitalize on the current upswing in Superhero related media. But they will hopefully keep trying. They cant strike out every time at bat, can they?

[AndrewCalling]

Superman Returns featured the most popular super hero of all time. How well did it do?

It did quite well. Superman Returns made $391 million in 2006, not adjusting for inflation (it would be well above $400 million if adjusted). That is more than Batman Begins' $373 million, more than either Hulk film, either FF film, all but 2 of the 5 X-Men films, more than Captain America, etc.

The film also holds a 76% rating on rotten tomatoes, that puts it on par with films like Thor and Captain America.

I know there is the perception that it didn't do well, but it actually did.

[Alex]

I just don't think WB doesn't try, it doesn't make sense to me that they set out to make bad movies.
Green Lantern was kind of shit, but they didn't intend to make a bad film.
Which leaves the other option, which is that they aren't capable of making a good comic movie that isn't about a big name character.