Should the Black Widow become a crime-fighting partner of Spider-Man?

[ngroove]

There is one Spider-Girl that could be used in the mainstream Marvel Universe:

Galina Tsarfin

She's the clone of The Black Widow and (by extension) Spider-Man. Here is her information:

http://marvel.wikia.com/Galina_Tsarfin_%28Earth-1078%29

I would love to see her come the Earth-616 as the next true Spider-Girl.

If Lyra(clone of the Hulk and Thundra) could make the jump into Earth-616, why can't Galina? She would get the chance to know The Black Widow and Spider-Man respectively.

It says it comes from "Millenial Visions" an alternate reality; exactly what it is. Alternate Universes and "What Ifs" can do whatever ridiculousness they want; no way in Hell touch cannon Marvel U.

[stewart48]

I'd never day Felecia was Bad for Spidey, but I'd never say that Felecia is good for Spidey.

She has her moments of being good or bad. Just too complicated of a question to say she's simply bad, and thats the way spidey's social network is supposed to be. I

[destro]

Darth Fury: If you want to read a good story involving Spidey teaming up with the Black Widow pick up Marvel Team Up #82.

[Darthfury78]

It says it comes from "Millenial Visions" an alternate reality; exactly what it is. Alternate Universes and "What Ifs" can do whatever ridiculousness they want; no way in Hell touch cannon Marvel U.

So was the alternate reality involving Thundra and The Hulk genetically cloned child Lyra, who also appeared in a one shot appearance as well. With Galina Tsarfin, she could travel back into the past to Earth-616 in the same manner as Lyra. However her 123 genetically advanced children can always be retconed away as if it never existed to begin with. Then we could have an alternate Spider-Girl who is directly related to The Black Widow and Spider-Man by way of DNA manipulation.

It would be interesting to see Galina becoming friends with Lyra and X-23 at The Avengers Academy. She would be the one person who readers would accept as Spider-Girl if Galina were to come to Earth-616 as a permanent resident. I could see The Black Widow becoming Galina's mentor, which would be a natural thing that Natasha would do.

[Zak213]

I think if sticks towards a more platonic partnership, people would have better time recieving it.

[Darthfury78]

I think if sticks towards a more platonic partnership, people would have better time receiving it.

Of course, it would be a platonic relationship. After all, The Black Widow is in a romantic relationship with Bucky. It would be crazy to say that any heroine who are friends with Peter Parker automatically becomes a love interest. It would be very boring if that's the case.

[Darthfury78]

Okay, pluses and minuses and a few mixed bags

Pluses:

+Also, liked the way Black Widow convinced the Chameleon to cooperate by suggesting she knew the "secret of his real face." Brings back a kind of mystery to the Chameleon's origins.

Overall, though, I think this was the best issue of "Ends of the Earth" thus far.

This is part of the story that I like the best. I never understood why past Spidey-Writers never used The Black Widow as a guest in ASM as her involvement could bring out a side to the character that we would never know in The Avengers. And I like the idea of The Black Widow and Spider-Man working together on occasion as he does with The Black Cat. I can't wait until the next issue.

[Darthfury78]

Here is a clip on Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, where The Black Widow plays a role in the story. Fast forward the clip to 4:40 because that's the start of Spider-Man's interaction with The Black Widow:



And to think that Silver Sable acts exactly like the Black Widow at times also.

[Darthfury78]

I think if sticks towards a more platonic partnership, people would have better time recieving it.

Here is a link that is worth reading about:
http://asylums.insanejournal.com/sca...39.html#cutid1

[Zombies8MyDingo]

I liked the Marvel Team up with Black Widow back when Spidey was taken to the Secret Wars, #140-141 I think it was, but generally I'm not a Widow fan. Just cause they're Spider named characters doesn't mean they need to be partners.

[Darthfury78]

I liked the Marvel Team up with Black Widow back when Spidey was taken to the Secret Wars, #140-141 I think it was, but generally I'm not a Widow fan. Just cause they're Spider named characters doesn't mean they need to be partners.

Agreed. However, I wouldn't have picked Spider-Man x Black Widow to work together just because of their Spider-Themed character. It's their contrast personalties that makes their potential friendship interesting. In retrospect, I wished that Stan Lee should have had the Black Widow as one of Spider-Man's early crime fighting partners as well as the option of Natasha helping him to hone his fighting skills at that time. They could have made a great team in addition to her partnership with Daredevil.

[TheAltarOfMyEgo]

I know there's probably (especially with Darth around) already a thread about this somewhere, so Mister Mets and Shaggy and the other mods...feel free to move this there.

Anyways, here's my idea for a non-continuity Spider-Man/Black Widow partnership. As with a lot of the Spider-Man What Ifs, something EXTREMELY devastating happens (death of multiple supporting cast members, etc.) and Peter goes darker. This time, though, Natasha helps him cope, and Peter adopts a new costume, becoming the Brown Recluse--the world's deadliest super-spy!

The new costume, of course, might make Pete look like a giant turd, but hey...It's a small price to pay to get this ship sailing!

[Ballard Blues]

Partners as in "the dynamic duo" partners, or is this another "Peter and Carol: MAKE IT HAPPEN" thread? Either way, it's an interesting concept, their teaming up, but a character like Black Widow (in my opinion) really doesn't mesh with a character like Spider-Man. Not for long anyway. The first thing that comes to mind, if it isn't the Baroness, is espionage, spy thrillers and the Avengers. I don't think it could survive in the long term.

[TheAltarOfMyEgo]

Partners as in "the dynamic duo" partners, or is this another "Peter and Carol: MAKE IT HAPPEN" thread? Either way, it's an interesting concept, their teaming up, but a character like Black Widow (in my opinion) really doesn't mesh with a character like Spider-Man. Not for long anyway. The first thing that comes to mind, if it isn't the Baroness, is espionage, spy thrillers and the Avengers. I don't think it could survive in the long term.

It's a non-serious thread, but I couldn't remember the title on the "shipping Spidey with Black Widow" thread.

[Spidey_Legend]

As a Team Up in an Avenging Issue yes, but nothing else.