Should the Black Widow become a crime-fighting partner of Spider-Man?

[Spidey_Legend]

I truly believe Black Cat has "graduated" from Spidey, to Daredevil, to streamline, less complicate Spidey's / Peter's personal life, to make way for MJ again.

More than the Mary Jane path, to avoid Peter dating a super power chick.

[Darthfury78]

More than the Mary Jane path, to avoid Peter dating a super power chick.

We all know that neither Silver Sable or The Black Widow have superpowers.

And the super soldier serum doesn't count as being super powered. Or does it?

As for Spider dating a super powered heroine, we may see it outside of Amazing Spider-Man. The only example we saw was Spidey and Ms. Marvel working together in the pages of her series but never in Amazing Spider-Man. I'm cool with that.

[Xenon]

Solo Hero.

He's a solo hero. No partners. Period.

[Kevinroc]

The comparison to Natasha and Felicia is horrible. Felicia is really bad for Peter. That was the entire point. Trying to shoehorn someone else into fulfilling the role Black Cat for Spider-Man will go down in failure. Not just because of the whole "status quo is God" trope but because the reason Felicia works is because she's bad for Peter. It's not in Natasha's character to fulfill that void.

[Darthfury78]

Solo Hero.

He's a solo hero. No partners. Period.

And Batman is a solo hero. Yet he has a lot of crime fighting partners.

The comparison to Natasha and Felicia is horrible. Felicia is really bad for Peter. That was the entire point. Trying to shoehorn someone else into fulfilling the role Black Cat for Spider-Man will go down in failure. Not just because of the whole "status quo is God" trope but because the reason Felicia works is because she's bad for Peter. It's not in Natasha's character to fulfill that void.

Felicia and Natasha aren't good for anyone. As you have correctly noted: That's the point. And someone else can also say that Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane isn't good for Peter either. The only person who is good for Peter Parker is his dear Aunt May.

[Ed Sizzers]

No. She's too good for him.

[Darthfury78]

No. She's too good for him.

All depends on whose writing the story.

[Xenon]

And Batman is a solo hero. Yet he has a lot of crime fighting partners..

Batman was paired with Robin within ten issues. Not nearly the same thing.

[Darthfury78]

Batman was paired with Robin within ten issues. Not nearly the same thing.

To be fair, Spider-Man started out as a teenager who was also a high school student. Fighting crime, caring for a sickly aunt, and going to school doesn't provide the time of day for a crime fighting partner. But if Spider-Man was to have had a crime fighting partner when he was a college student, it might have been The Black Widow who he could learn a lot from after ASM #86. This might have been the perfect moment when Natasha could have become a mentor for Peter Parker by teaching him to become a better fighter and investigator. This was the type of partnership that I was referring to.

[Kevinroc]

Felicia and Natasha aren't good for anyone. As you have correctly noted: That's the point. And someone else can also say that Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane isn't good for Peter either. The only person who is good for Peter Parker is his dear Aunt May.

How is Natasha not good for anyone? The evil Soviet spy was ditched decades ago.

Why are you turning this into a shipping thing by bringing up Gwen and MJ? They have nothing to do with this.

[Chuckles]

I'm not enamored with idea of Black Widow being Spider-Man's "crime-fighting partner," but I could definitely see a Shang-Chi-like scenario, where she helps to hone his stealth skills.

[scouse mouse]

This thread is going exactly the same way as it did on the Avengers board. The vast majority don't see them as working well together in this scenario.

[Darthfury78]

There is one Spider-Girl that could be used in the mainstream Marvel Universe:

Galina Tsarfin

She's the clone of The Black Widow and (by extension) Spider-Man. Here is her information:

http://marvel.wikia.com/Galina_Tsarfin_%28Earth-1078%29

I would love to see her come the Earth-616 as the next true Spider-Girl.

If Lyra(clone of the Hulk and Thundra) could make the jump into Earth-616, why can't Galina? She would get the chance to know The Black Widow and Spider-Man respectively.

[okpanic]

Since The Black Cat now resides in Daredevil's world...

She turned up in like 3 issues before she left again. That's more of a guest stint than support character. If we're judging where a character resized based on where they last appeared or are appearing next, Black Cat is more in the Defenders' world.

I think Black Widow is generally too "straight" of a character to mix it up in Spidey's world too much. She brings a grounding element of sorts.

[ngroove]

BUMP...changed my mind on this post...