WW #12 Solicit

**billee0918** · 05-14-2012, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera

Well... I think your on-screen presence is a little similar to Tman sometimes now that I think about it. As I said before, it's not a bad thing at all. I respect those who really take no crap from anyone and give back what they get, in the same fashion that they get it. But you already said you're not him, so... what're u gonna do. Actually I miss Tman.

Hi Rob, I miss TMan too...no matter how often we disagreed. I don't get the TM vibe from Max at all, even if they share views.

**americanwonder** · 05-14-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera

... And anyway, I don't think Apollo is black. I think he's just black-colored during the daytime...

? I'm not following. Isn't he the same color in #1 when it's night?

Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera

... Is there such a thing as ethnicity in the dieties?

Good question. I don't think our own ethnicities work too well on them - I mean, what's Poseidon? I just kind of see it as diety is their ethnicity of sorts.

**Imraith Nimphais** · 05-14-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by americanwonder

I'm sure it's not your intention, but your post almost reads like you're saying that because it's a non-issue for you that it can't be a valid issue for anyone. I don't buy your claim that "the story is not the worse for its exclusion." If I just wanted everything that's "important," everything that moves the story forward, then I could just read the spoiler-plot-points online. But, I'd get a very different experience; the story would be very bare-bones and dry. Characterization adds flavor.

It was most assuredly not my intention.
I can very well understand others wanting that interpersonal characterization. If it was added, sure we get some more flavour to Diana's life...but it isn't there...ad I do not miss it and I do not think that the story suffers for its lack thereof, imo. The story is just as entertaining and engrossing without it.
Personally, I am too caught up in how the story is progressing between Diana and Hades and Zola and wot the other Gods are planning to be overly concerned by whether or not she has a social life that involves mere humans.
As with Rob's post...Diana likes tomatoes. If on their wedding night Hades goes to kiss her (right after she just ate a plate full of sun-ripened heirlooms) and dies because he is allergic...well...that would be adding to the story. Otherwise, it is just a bit of extraneous information that is in and of itself interesting but in essence, unimportant. (Yes, I just equated liking tomatoes with having a social life).
(and let me go on record as saying that I do believe she has an active social life...it's just that her current conflicts are taking precedence and all of her focus).

**Reginleif** · 05-14-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera

I'm sure Eliseu can reiterate it himself, but for what it's worth.. I think you're right! And anyway, I don't think Apollo is black. I think he's just black-colored during the daytime. Is there such a thing as ethnicity in the dieties?

The Greeks have a story where Apollo or something (I cant remember the context) acidently shine a concentrated bright light on the ethiopians (the only black people they were aware of) turning them dark skinned. That is probably where he is drawing Apollos skin colour from.

Also yes, there are 'ethnic' gods (that is non-Greek or non-Greek looking) dieties in the Hellenistic pantheon. Aries for certain, probably Hephaestus.

**americanwonder** · 05-14-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by billee0918

I don't get the TM vibe from Max at all, even if they share views.

Me either. But then, I thought TroubleMan was TripleX here, or did I just get confused somewhere along the line?

No matter, how 'bout that cover?!?! :)

**Maximum Impact** · 05-14-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by americanwonder

Me either. But then, I thought TroubleMan was TripleX here, or did I just get confused somewhere along the line?

No matter, how 'bout that cover?!?! :)

Okay, how many people am I supposed to be? lol

**Goldenboy882** · 05-14-2012, 05:43 PM

Looks at cover... I do not know why, but I immediately felt this would happen right from Apollo's introduction. Maybe it is because Chiang said he was a smooth criminal.

Of course covers can be misleading. I hope this one is not. Do not get me wrong, I am totally Team Steve. But it is okay with me if a few more attractive men join the I love Diana club.

**Fate's Faith** · 05-14-2012, 06:31 PM

Another great cover. Of course I don't expect this to be an actual panel in the issue... after all, she does seem to be flying

I love the idea that Wonder Woman is placed in the masculine role while Apollo is bent back being kissed. I'd imagined if they were standing on the ground, he'd have one foot raised as she lays one on him. Maybe she's stopping a war with love?

**Wulfmir** · 05-14-2012, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Maximum Impact

Why would you think that?

Because a lot of people here said so. I defended that title for months from the same complaints you give on this current run. It even had an ending that you would like this current run to have, its all just a dream.

Strange you call that Wonder Woman but not this.

**Maximum Impact** · 05-14-2012, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Imraith Nimphais

Well, we know she established some roots...the woman was living quite comfortably in a flat in London before all this GodvsGod nonsense started up...

Sure she would have made acquaintances within the five years...but they would have been left out and apart from these particular goings-on as it has absolutely nothing to do with them per-se. All that is happening now is obviously quite personal to WW herself so Azzarello would not feel the need to bring in anyone from her time with the JL.

Wouldn't it be great if when this is all over and she goes back to her apartment in London Steve comes out the bathroom and asks her where she's been?

**Don-Jack** · 05-14-2012, 06:50 PM

I can only remember this

**Wulfmir** · 05-14-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by americanwonder

I don't think it's asking too much for a little world building that includes Diana's life - we are 8 issues in at this point (and I don't see any signs of personal life for Diana in the near future).

eta: For me, stories tend to feel more shallow when we don't see signs of life beyond the primary story. This is a big part of how/why we grow to care about these characters and what happens to them. For example, if "Strangers in Paradise" had been all plot drive action, I doubt I would have given it too much thought. But the characters, their life and personality in their "down time," is why I love them, and it made the reading that much more enjoyable.

We get a little bit of that here with Zola and their small conversations. But from this story, we don't have a good idea who or what this Diana is like when she's not tied-up in the Greek God Family Feud.

I don't think you'll get, maybe some bits and pieces. Same complaints the GL books had when they were introducing the other corps like blue and orange. The title is more plot driven.

**Wulfmir** · 05-14-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Maximum Impact

Wouldn't it be great if when this is all over and she goes back to her apartment in London Steve comes out the bathroom and asks her where she's been?

They are NOT together.

And in a way I'm glad, Steve is being well established in Justice League.