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    Who is that? Somebody called me that last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshipp17 View Post
    Absolutely; hope we have something, but maybe not a situation that must never be; Dr. Psycho can change because his hate is more the product of hurt and Wonder Woman could eventually fixed that for him.
    I think that Wonder Woman works with Dr. Psycho they way they are now(?). I think upsetting their current balance would probably ruin the kind of (anti)chemistry they have now.

    Sure.. he could change if Wonder Woman professed to have feelings for him one day, but the minute she did that he would try to control her and consume her. She, of course, would never have that... and then he would revert and possibly pull the "If I can't have you ALL to myself, no one can!!" and would probably try to kill her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximum Impact View Post
    Who is that? Somebody called me that last week.
    LOL.. Well, I don't know if you're him or not... but I think Eliseu thinks you're TROUBLEMAN2000 from the old DCMB. Troubleman was very confrontational and unapologetic for his outbursts sometimes. Although he always let u know how he felt, which I appreciated. He was (is) very fond of Odyssey as well.

    If you're him, well.. welcome back! If not, then carry on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera View Post
    I think that Wonder Woman works with Dr. Psycho they way they are now(?). I think upsetting their current balance would probably ruin the kind of (anti)chemistry they have now.

    Sure.. he could change if Wonder Woman professed to have feelings for him one day, but the minute she did that he would try to control her and consume her. She, of course, would never have that... and then he would revert and possibly pull the "If I can't have you ALL to myself, no one can!!" and would probably try to kill her.
    I don't think he'd try to consume her; that aspect of his character is a function of his hurt; as far as the controlling part, well, that would make the dynamics interesting; Wonder Woman just put her foot down, see where it goes, than the pair could use some outside intervention. The part with trying to refrain from those impulses to having a controlling attitude towards a woman he loves is very complicated, but, somehow, would need to be contained and fixed.

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    I can't understand why Zola can't be her closest friend by now.
    Julia and Vanessa Kapatelis were Diana's best friends by the end of first arc or so...
    Besides that, Zola can be her best friend AT THIS MOMENT, it doesn't mean that Diana doesn't have any other good friends
    but right now, she is the closest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera View Post
    LOL.. Well, I don't know if you're him or not... but I think Eliseu thinks you're TROUBLEMAN2000 from the old DCMB. Troubleman was very confrontational and unapologetic for his outbursts sometimes. Although he always let u know how he felt, which I appreciated. He was (is) very fond of Odyssey as well.

    If you're him, well.. welcome back! If not, then carry on!
    I thought Eliseu meant "But he's [her] b[rother]," referring to Apollo.

    But I have to admit, I have always thought you were Troubleman, Max. But, as Rob says, it's cool either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera View Post
    LOL.. Well, I don't know if you're him or not... but I think Eliseu thinks you're TROUBLEMAN2000 from the old DCMB. Troubleman was very confrontational and unapologetic for his outbursts sometimes. Although he always let u know how he felt, which I appreciated. He was (is) very fond of Odyssey as well.

    If you're him, well.. welcome back! If not, then carry on!
    I don't think "very confrontational and unapologetic" applies to me, but if he likes the Odyssey he has good taste.

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    Having anyone even look like they were talking to her in the club would have been a good start. Having anyone they come across anywhere in London treat Diana as if they know her or even recognize her would help. But the story has her detached from everything and everyone around her. I don't get any sense of 'community' from any of the scenes in London at all. She's out in the crowd brooding, but never communicating with anyone or having anyone try to communicate with her.

    I mean at this point, eight issues in, does she have a secret identity? Or does everyone know Diana is Wonder Woman? What does she do to pay for the flat? Does she have a job? Does she have friends on the job?

    Meanwhile, have you read the JL? The Diana over there, now running concurrent with this title, is absolutely nothing like the Diana we're seeing in her own book.

    Like I said, I'm trying to be patient til the end of this arc, but it's dragging out a bit long for my tastes :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvn View Post
    I thought Eliseu meant "But he's [her] b[rother]," referring to Apollo.

    But I have to admit, I have always thought you were Troubleman, Max. But, as Rob says, it's cool either way.
    Well... although I heard speculation that the DCMB had moderators, I surely never saw one. Wether entertaining or not, those types of outbursts when confronted would not go over well here. Not so much Troubleman as much as LipstickHeroine with the WONDER WOMAN IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rants and raves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don-Jack View Post
    I can't understand why Zola can't be her closest friend by now.
    Julia and Vanessa Kapatelis were Diana's best friends by the end of first arc or so...
    Besides that, Zola can be her best friend AT THIS MOMENT, it doesn't mean that Diana doesn't have any other good friends
    but right now, she is the closest
    Because Julia and Vanessa were the first people she met. It made sense because she hadn't established herself in man's world first.

    Supposedly she's been living off of Themyscira for five years or more now. I personally just don't like the idea of a detached, friendless Diana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaelforce View Post
    Because Julia and Vanessa were the first people she met. It made sense because she hadn't established herself in man's world first.

    Supposedly she's been living off of Themyscira for five years or more now. I personally just don't like the idea of a detached, friendless Diana.

    I think that she doesn't have friends is a very subtle, yet blatant aspect of what people aren't talking about. Not necessarily that she "doesn't have friends", but on-camera friends anyway. It has been approximately 2 weeks in comic-book time since issue #1 (I'm guessing) but it's been 9 months for us in real-time, so I'm sure it's not as severe as we think.

    But I completely concur. Azzarello's story is way too dense and concentrated. We need a millisecond of no-gods and gloom and doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvn View Post
    I thought Eliseu meant "But he's [her] b[rother]," referring to Apollo.
    This is like Mad Libs, we can all guess the "b" word (that sounds pretty bad ).

    Personally, I was guessing "black" because I seem to recall that back in the Jimenez era, some folks didn't take to well to Trevor Barnes' skin color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximum Impact View Post
    I don't think "very confrontational and unapologetic" applies to me, but if he likes the Odyssey he has good taste.
    Well... I think your on-screen presence is a little similar to Tman sometimes now that I think about it. As I said before, it's not a bad thing at all. I respect those who really take no crap from anyone and give back what they get, in the same fashion that they get it. But you already said you're not him, so... what're u gonna do. Actually I miss Tman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_Olivera View Post
    ... It has been approximately 2 weeks in comic-book time since issue #1 (I'm guessing) but it's been 9 months for us in real-time, so I'm sure it's not as severe as we think...
    This is a good point. I think it feels more exaggerated to (some) readers due to our time-frame, not the story's internal timeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by americanwonder View Post
    This is like Mad Libs, we can all guess the "b" word (that sounds pretty bad ).

    Personally, I was guessing "black" because I seem to recall that back in the Jimenez era, some folks didn't take to well to Trevor Barnes' skin color.
    I'm sure Eliseu can reiterate it himself, but for what it's worth.. I think you're right! And anyway, I don't think Apollo is black. I think he's just black-colored during the daytime. Is there such a thing as ethnicity in the dieties?

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