The Red Hulk

[CTpitch]

Its banners book that is the point of it being banner. When you take a character out of his own book and make another the star its no longer the hulk. Its another book. I picked up a book about Banner not some other guy. It is not about the support characters its about the main character. That main character is banner. It would be like if they gave the hammer of Thor to another character instead of Thor and then said they are Thor. You would shake your head , scratch it , walk away going just what drug did they do that day. More important you would be ask if you liked it and you would smile and say. No , do i like it when you call my pinto a Luxury car. So do not think I will like it when you call somebody else the hero who clearly is not. Look a guy on the roof its raining ,oh no not again but you say its just rain. Come on sell the fertilizer some place else.

however Banner is dead even in the incredible hulk
yes he will still have a slight presence but as of now Banner is dead

[Mechano]

four years later... and rulk is still a bad joke. i will admit, parker's writing isn't bad at all. i love his thunderbolts. but rulk is such a ridiculously contrived thing, that nothing, NOTHING will make his adventures worth reading... in my eyes. Any story that stars him could be better told using banner.

[Hulk_Is]

four years later... and rulk is still a bad joke. i will admit, parker's writing isn't bad at all. i love his thunderbolts. but rulk is such a ridiculously contrived thing, that nothing, NOTHING will make his adventures worth reading... in my eyes. Any story that stars him could be better told using banner.

In total agreement. 'Nuff said.

[Monty_Cristo]

is it irony that the OP's name is Ultimate Hulk? there were several hulks in that universe.

[jackson2171]

This thread is 4 years late.

only because I was busy with life and knew one day I would return to see what one of my favorite comic characters was up to. Just because people cannot get a chance to read up or show support does not mean they do not care. It simply means at the moment they cannot do justice to a idea , it will never mean they gave up on the idea itself.

[Kurolegacy]

Its banners book that is the point of it being banner. When you take a character out of his own book and make another the star its no longer the hulk. Its another book. I picked up a book about Banner not some other guy. It is not about the support characters its about the main character. That main character is banner. It would be like if they gave the hammer of Thor to another character instead of Thor and then said they are Thor. You would shake your head , scratch it , walk away going just what drug did they do that day. More important you would be ask if you liked it and you would smile and say. No , do i like it when you call my pinto a Luxury car. So do not think I will like it when you call somebody else the hero who clearly is not. Look a guy on the roof its raining ,oh no not again but you say its just rain. Come on sell the fertilizer some place else.

Bad example as that did happen with Thunderstrike.

[jackson2171]

Bad example as that did happen with Thunderstrike.

No I know and it failed. It is why i used it.
Thor is more then just a hero he is a character steeped in lore , a huge collection of thought on years that have come before and hopefully years to come after the present. A writer worth any thing at all would see this character and say yes. I can such wonders with this.
So when they said.....Thor? I cannot do anything with this. lets get rid of Thor and replace him with a human. The point of some comics was never to relate but to wow us. Highlander was a great example of a good Wow a move that stands alone as something that stepped outside the boundary of the box and let you on a journey you were glad to take.
Thor has that presence he has that age to him and if you take that away and give it to just anybody you get. Well failed result and not the spirit that is Thor or Odin or Loki or Sif and Yes Bruce Banner AKA the Hulk , AKA a force of nature AKA not the Red Hulk.
I gues its a lose lose battle.
If you forget the past you are doomed to repeat it.
If you forget the past you are doooomed to repeat it.
Try one more time so it will sink in.
If We forget our past we are dooooooomed to repeat it.
Save us some trouble please and remember the past. Change the story not the character.
Enough said.

[Wellman]

four years later... and rulk is still a bad joke. i will admit, parker's writing isn't bad at all. i love his thunderbolts. but rulk is such a ridiculously contrived thing, that nothing, NOTHING will make his adventures worth reading... in my eyes. Any story that stars him could be better told using banner.

I have to disagree.

Red Hulk, works because until the OG, he isn't based around just rage or wanting to be left along because he is misunderstood. He is a former military man, that went off the deep end and now has to live with consequences while doing missions in a form that is not unlike the one spent years hunting. Because of all that, it makes more sense to see a Red Hulk fall in with the Avengers or go on crazy missions because with Red, similar to She-Hulk there isn't any different personality excuse, Ross owns the persona and what he does in it.

Red Hulk takes the low road, along lines of Winter Soldier, Agent Venom and various other anti hero spin offs, so that Marvel doesn't have to dirty up the original when they have someone that wants to tell a grittier story. To me, that alone makes him worthwhile to keep around, but it really is Parker's writing that helped seal the deal with the character being their own.


I do believe that A-Bomb should be written out of Hulk lore, but that is the only member of Hulk's recent family I think is a unnecessary joke.

[crossbones]

Hulk is currently my favorite Marvel book but even i think that it should be retitled to Red Hulk to avoid any confusion.

Parker's run (#25->) is awesome. there are 4 trades out now collecting most of it, that should convert pretty much anyone who's into good comics.

[Algus]

Red Hulk was a long time in coming. I'd much rather read about him than have another few decades of comics where the military chases Banner around in a never-ending quest to replicate him.

[jackson2171]

Hulk is currently my favorite Marvel book but even i think that it should be retitled to Red Hulk to avoid any confusion.

Parker's run (#25->) is awesome. there are 4 trades out now collecting most of it, that should convert pretty much anyone who's into good comics.

I just want the old one back and lets see good story with what they had. Is that to much to ask for.

[jackson2171]

Red Hulk was a long time in coming. I'd much rather read about him than have another few decades of comics where the military chases Banner around in a never-ending quest to replicate him.

Red hulk was not a long time in coming. so many things they could have done and did not. If the red hulk was Banner then you could say it was a part of the hulk however who this new guy is surely is not the hulk. I would see Stan Lee's take on this red hulk.

[jackson2171]

I have to disagree.

Red Hulk, works because until the OG, he isn't based around just rage or wanting to be left along because he is misunderstood. He is a former military man, that went off the deep end and now has to live with consequences while doing missions in a form that is not unlike the one spent years hunting. Because of all that, it makes more sense to see a Red Hulk fall in with the Avengers or go on crazy missions because with Red, similar to She-Hulk there isn't any different personality excuse, Ross owns the persona and what he does in it.

Red Hulk takes the low road, along lines of Winter Soldier, Agent Venom and various other anti hero spin offs, so that Marvel doesn't have to dirty up the original when they have someone that wants to tell a grittier story. To me, that alone makes him worthwhile to keep around, but it really is Parker's writing that helped seal the deal with the character being their own.


I do believe that A-Bomb should be written out of Hulk lore, but that is the only member of Hulk's recent family I think is a unnecessary joke.

Why not just do away with the whole left alone stuff of the hulk as they were working on. this makes much more sense then making somebody else the hulk.

[jackson2171]

Then again if you think about the whole red hulk , its next up for the Pink Hulk. or rainbow Hulk. How about orange Hulk with blue legs. Not good wait ten years. Then you can have the wonder twin glow in the dark hulks with side kick of a mushy purple hairy hulk. Look at the red hulks powers you would think you were making something that was so over powered that hell the Beyonder would say woooo dude. You one bad mambo jambo. Good luck with the story telling on that over powered house. Then the red she hulk being Betty , never seen that coming. Not that I wanted to.
Hows this for a hulk , he can shoot beams out his eyes , he can shrink and grow and he can just absorb all attacks and he can read minds and see the dead. oh and he grows cold instead of hot the more energy he collects. He can even use the Odin force because I say he can.
He kills the Red Hulk because as you said it was bound to happen sooner or later. He is platinum and has gold spots so he is platinum gold spotted hulk and his dog Mulk. Mulks saying is Mulk mash. If you could speak dog that is.
The Mulk was used by the beyonder to track down any and all crazy contrived Red Hulks and eat them. Thus making the universe safe once again. Power to the Mulk.
Oh and do not forget Mulks well Um Fleas.... They have untra powers of flight , they can suck dry any being of Gama and they grow when in contact with heat. They are imune to damage and it only tickles them. They love Mulk because well one is cold the other 200 are hot. So they get along fine.
Ross Dies a horrible death from 200 Mulk fleas. Who can call on the odin force , power cosmic , and the power of superman. Hey works for me its Tuesday and on Tuesday you can do anything. I think the red Hulk was made on a Tuesday.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Why not just do away with the whole left alone stuff of the hulk as they were working on. this makes much more sense then making somebody else the hulk.

Because readers will complain that they're deviating too far from the core of the character. Some Hulk diehards feel that the struggle between man and beast must be ever present and set the character at a crossroads with other characters. I mean if he's finally accepted completely, you have to drop the misunderstood monster that has been central to the character since his early years. It's just how some folks still complain that Spider-man never should have joined the Avengers, even though he's worked with various heroes multiple times before, and even befriended a few of them.