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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Kill Hitler View Post
    That's the one I'm thinking of yeah. So was the story just a book then?
    Not a book really, just a short story for a fanzine they created. It involved a mad scientist giving this homeless man telepathic powers who proceeded to wreak havoc.

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    Getting all the books, but I'm back to buying the vanilla book out of habit, not excitement. May as well stick around till Lobdell takes over in September, though. If he doesn't turn the book around, though, I'll be getting all my Superman stories in Action. If the third creative team in a year can't do it, it's three strikes and I'm out.

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    Wow. That's a gorgeous Superman cover. Shame this title really can't match the quality on Action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    Hasn't it be a while DeFalco replaced him? Or did I miss something and Lobdell came back?

    Anyway, the Action cover intrigues me. On one hand, the guy seems to have psychic powers, which would suggest this "First Superman" (assuming it's him) is indeed a Bill Dunn counterpart, on the other, the general look makes it seems he won't be more than a counterpart, instead of the "real deal". Makes sense, I guess they don't have Dunn's rights anyway. I hope the guy is gonna be epic, and be a recurring foe for Superman;
    The Superman cover is nice, good impression on cover. Sort of iffy about Jurgens alone assuming the writing part, but I hope the fact Griffen is writing the annual on his own means it's only temporary.
    Hey man, I'm thinking your right with the whole Bill Dunn thing. Maybe a government scientist or just a scientist in general came and picked him up from the soup line and preformed crazy experiments on him for a hot meal. Then Bill takes over the city by mind controlling everyone but either the government or the scientist strike back and he is somehow foiled and losses his powers and with them go any idea of what happened that day (this would also extend to the public aka people under his control). But maybe the government knows or the scientist (if he's still alive) knows and is now just looked at like some crazy guy. But before he dies (im assuming) he leaves his notes or is carted away by the government.

    Lois then gets wind of all this and is now hot on the case......well at least that what I think the story will be like.

    It fits all of the motifs that have been set in the run so far:

    1.The little guy strikes back: Superman represents that in a good way

    2. The analog Supermen: we saw Metal-zero as one of them in relation to our earths Superman

    3. What Superman could have been if he wasn't him: Metal-zero is Superman who is driven by someone else (Lois dictates what he does) and is a small man inside. The collector was the "bad alien" who came here to study and be little us. He is Superman with no humanity. The list goes on to issue #9 but that hasn't yet FULLY applied to our earth just yet.

    4. Using Superman's whole meta textual story to make a story about one man: Mr. Morrison has stated this time and again and Bill Dunn is in fact part of that meta history and to add him as the 1st FORGOTTEN Superman (which he his based on how people no so little about his one shot story) is an extremely smart move on Morrison's part if this is the rout he's going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    Okay. So it's nothing new, then? Unless that means Lobdell isn't doing the synopsis anymore?
    Nort that I really care, I'm not reading Superboy either way.
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    He's been doing the scripts, making the book unreadable.
    Didnt notice it before, not really reading Superboy either...not really a fan of what Lobdell has done with him and the rest of the Titans/YJ'ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlad93 View Post
    Hey man, I'm thinking your right with the whole Bill Dunn thing. Maybe a government scientist or just a scientist in general came and picked him up from the soup line and preformed crazy experiments on him for a hot meal. Then Bill takes over the city by mind controlling everyone but either the government or the scientist strike back and he is somehow foiled and losses his powers and with them go any idea of what happened that day (this would also extend to the public aka people under his control). But maybe the government knows or the scientist (if he's still alive) knows and is now just looked at like some crazy guy. But before he dies (im assuming) he leaves his notes or is carted away by the government.

    Lois then gets wind of all this and is now hot on the case......well at least that what I think the story will be like.

    It fits all of the motifs that have been set in the run so far:

    1.The little guy strikes back: Superman represents that in a good way

    2. The analog Supermen: we saw Metal-zero as one of them in relation to our earths Superman

    3. What Superman could have been if he wasn't him: Metal-zero is Superman who is driven by someone else (Lois dictates what he does) and is a small man inside. The collector was the "bad alien" who came here to study and be little us. He is Superman with no humanity. The list goes on to issue #9 but that hasn't yet FULLY applied to our earth just yet.

    4. Using Superman's whole meta textual story to make a story about one man: Mr. Morrison has stated this time and again and Bill Dunn is in fact part of that meta history and to add him as the 1st FORGOTTEN Superman (which he his based on how people no so little about his one shot story) is an extremely smart move on Morrison's part if this is the rout he's going.
    Yeah, the "Bill Dunn" theory is an old one around here. I think your theory for the whole story makes sense.
    By the way, has Superman ever fought reguraly a supervilain with psychic powers? If not the guy could be a nice foe in the future.
    "I'm going to paraphrase Nietzsche, when you judge a work, the work judges you."

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    Just Action Comics and the Superman annual. Since it looks like Super Boy isn't crossing over with TT anymore, I can finally drop it.
    Action Comics, Batman, Justice League, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Night Wing, The Flash, Batman And Robin, Teen Titans, Batman Inc. , Earth 2, Avengers Vs Xmen

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    His costume reminds me of Nuclear Man though.
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    Superboy looks emo o___O
    Reading: A Comics, Superman, Superboy, Batman, B&R, Nightwing, G Lantern, GL:NG, The Flash, J League, T Titans, Earth 2, World's Finest and Smallville S.11!

    Watching: Young Justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superjman1986 View Post
    Superboy looks emo o___O
    Superboy looks emo
    Superboy-Prime acts emo

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    Weird...the Source lists Scott Kolins as the artist on the annual but Newsarama and CBR list "CAFU and others".

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    So the Earth's first Superman is Bill Dunn or a pastiche version of him. Never tought that Morrison would integrate such an almost unknown character to the DCnU.

    Well I'll be picking AC, Superman along with the annual. Bussiness as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Taylor View Post
    So the Earth's first Superman is Bill Dunn or a pastiche version of him. Never tought that Morrison would integrate such an almost unknown character to the DCnU.

    Well I'll be picking AC, Superman along with the annual. Bussiness as usual.
    Leave it to Morrison to bring characters that far in the past to Action Comics.
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    Action and Supergirl looking great is par for course.

    Superboy, I'm wary of seemingly losing Lobdell completely. I don't mind DeFalco as much as some, but he's not as good as Lobdell at capturing Superboy's voice, that much I agree with. Superman....sigh, I dunno. A rather generic solicit for a title that is just begging for some hype. I certainly don't want to be too hard too quick, nothing wrong with good standalone stories after all. But we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    Yeah, the "Bill Dunn" theory is an old one around here. I think your theory for the whole story makes sense.
    By the way, has Superman ever fought reguraly a supervilain with psychic powers? If not the guy could be a nice foe in the future.
    Oh yea I'm aware of the theory, in fact I think you were one of the 1st to bring it to my attention really (good catch). And as for the psychic villains: no I don't think he has any to really make any note of so yea Bill could be a big factor in coming stories.

    But I will say I'd like him to be used sparingly because the sheer gravitas of who he is should make him a "special occasion" sorta villain, ya know?

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