Can we have a better codename for Tim Drake?

**Sacred Knight** · 05-13-2012, 12:59 PM

Both the name and the costume are just fine. I like this costume a lot better than the pre-Flashpoint one. Never liked that Alex Ross design.

**Flash Gordon** · 05-13-2012, 01:19 PM

but Robin is seen as training wheels for young heroes.

Not really, it's more of a partner for Batman. He just always picks 'em young, I guess.

I hate the new costume. It is one of the ugliest designs I've seen outside of a Liefield comic in some time. Nothing wrong with the more mature look he had going pre-Flashpoint. The Teen Titans all need a bit of an overhaul anyway though.

**Henchman4Hire** · 05-13-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Flash Gordon

Not really, it's more of a partner for Batman. He just always picks 'em young, I guess.

This is how I've always viewed the role of Robin. Batman didn't open a school for young crime-fighters. He's specifically training his partner/successor. It just so happens that some of them are growing up and choosing to move on before he retires/dies, so they have to go somewhere. Tim Drake didn't choose to 'graduate' from being Robin like Dick Grayson did, everyone else decided for him by letting Damian take over. Tim still viewed himself as Batman's partner and so when he had to choose a new name, he wanted to continue to acknowledge that he was still a Robin. Tim Drake got into this gig to be Batman's partner, not to be just a crime-fighter.

**Sunbird** · 05-13-2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by HXHAlex

I feel the wings have been justified ("we didn't want the leader of the team to have to be constantly flown around by super boy or wonder girl, etc") and they look pretty awesome in some panels, but yeah, after the slight changes made to it, the cowl costume did grow on to me

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Originally Posted by MajorHoy

Wasn't Redbird the car he drove way back when he first got his regular series?

Isn't that Falcon's pet, uh, Falcon too?

**The Red Deluge** · 05-13-2012, 01:28 PM

Redwing or Blackbird.

He has outgrown his Robin-era and deserves a chance at individuality just as much as Nightwing and Red Hood.

**DonC** · 05-13-2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Retro315

Redbird would be acceptable, but for my money nothing will beat Redwing. I mean, he's a "graduate of the Robin program" so homaging Nightwing is an easy move. Even Batwing homages Nightwing, and I can't remember exactly when Batwing's name turned up in the 70's/80's story, but Dick becoming Nightwing was a new concept then.

So it recognizes Tim's graduation from being Robin, homages one of his best friends, brothers and mentors in Dick Grayson, and indicates that he's retaining more of the "Robin" elements - the color red, the bird-themes - than Dick did. After all, Dick still a bird basically re-embraced his acrobat/trapeze lifestyle with his motifs, with a slight predatory bird angle.

Yes, Redwing. Just to delineate him from Robin a bit more and separate him from the burger franchise.

Redwing would be cool. Certainly better than Red Robin. Although that name doesn't really annoy me like others, apparently.

**Zak213** · 05-13-2012, 01:34 PM

im thinking sunbird.

**md62** · 05-13-2012, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Retro315

Redwing. Just to delineate him from Robin a bit more and separate him from the burger franchise.

So totally agree. Everytime I picked up the RR book I looked to see if the cover artist squeezed in a "yum" in small letters under the logo...

**Vakanai** · 05-13-2012, 03:02 PM

Is Red Robin a huge burger franchise?
We only got one near-ish here (near enough to see commercials, still nowhere close to my town) a few years back. Like, right after Tim became Red Robin. Not exactly McDonald's.

I like the name. Unlike Dick, he doesn't want to move beyond being a Robin. It shows how different he is. Redwing just doesn't convey that message at all. Dick wanted something like a Nightwing role. Tim doesn't.

**MajorHoy** · 05-13-2012, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Zak213

im thinking sunbird.

**Godlike13** · 05-13-2012, 05:39 PM

How about "The Sleuth"

**Chainshada** · 05-13-2012, 06:22 PM

My vote would go for Redbird (Since he's used it before, though only online I think), and this costume
http://demonpuppy.blogspot.com.au/se...max-results=10 (Errors linking/uploading, but 3 posts down on that page).