No Hawkeye Love? *Avengers Movie Spoilers*

[OkieDokiLoki]

I definetly would've liked to have seen more of him but what was there was pretty cool.
He was truly bad-ass in the end fighting alongside everyone. ^^

[Lascoden]

Was referring to Hawkeye actually lol. Sorry, should've made it more clear following your comment.

Haha, whoops, my bad. Yeah, this is a Hawkeye thread, isn't it.
Got lost, with all the Widow talk.

[Umbra]

The Avengers aren't the X-men, and she's certainly an outcast. And her plot arc (much more than Hawkeye's, who joins in order to get revenge) is coming to realize she can use her skillset as a superhero, not just fighting for SHIELD.

You also realize that the "Black Widow doesn't belong she's a SHIELD agent with no powers" doesn't fly when you're arguing for more Hawkeye. Look, I want Wasp to be in these movies, I love Jan, but Jan and Natasha bring very different things to the plot, and superheroes without powers are pretty genre-standard for good reason.

Agreed. I though they were both great.

Wished Pym, Jan and T'challa were in the flick. clint will get development in his solo.

[NamorsTrident]

Just wanted to add......Captain America called Clint Hawkeye when he was giving out orders to the whole team. I think he was also called it one other time in the film......

[tommyman]

Just wanted to add......Captain America called Clint Hawkeye when he was giving out orders to the whole team. I think he was also called it one other time in the film......

Ahh.. I forgot that, or missed it somehow.
One off my list, I guess.
Ta.

[Wren]

I wish Black Widow would've at least slipped into a Russian accent.

As a Russian, her accent made me cringe. It took me out of the movie because the guys she was captured by should have known right away she wasn't who she said she was... she sounded like a robot reading a phonetic script.

I wish if they were going with her being Russian, they'd picked a Russian actress (especially since she's a recurring character)... but I can see why they didn't.

[Hrist]

I think ultimately because the movie Iron Mans depiction was more of a wise cracking free spirited jerk, they had to take the Clint character in a different direction.

So I think going with the Ultimate version was smart. And it better fits the direction they're taking him. He's a SHIELD agent, not a guy criminal circus guy.

Oh, I understand why they did it, and how this version fits into the movie more cleanly. I still think there's a disconnect, especially for devoted fans of 616 Clint.

[Fast]

As a Russian, her accent made me cringe. It took me out of the movie because the guys she was captured by should have known right away she wasn't who she said she was... she sounded like a robot reading a phonetic script.

I wish if they were going with her being Russian, they'd picked a Russian actress (especially since she's a recurring character)... but I can see why they didn't.

As a non-Russian her OMG line in Russian (Bohze Moi?) made me raise an eyebrow. For now though I am assuming she has lived in America far longer than she was in Russia so the accent may have slipped away (born in Lafayette, LA. Moved to Philly when I was 8 and have had a northern accent most my life)...of course as a spy she really should be able to convincingly have the accent.

Still this is a gripe so minor I skated right over it like Loki speaking English/German

[Wren]

As a non-Russian her OMG line in Russian (Bohze Moi?) made me raise an eyebrow. For now though I am assuming she has lived in America far longer than she was in Russia so the accent may have slipped away (born in Lafayette, LA. Moved to Philly when I was 8 and have had a northern accent most my life)...of course as a spy she really should be able to convincingly have the accent.

Still this is a gripe so minor I skated right over it like Loki speaking English/German

I also have lived three quarters of my life in Canada and don't speak Russian regularly and it's not quite what she sounded like. Her words had no inflection or the wrong inflection-- she didn't know what she was saying.

But yeah overall it was a really minor issue, and I am very used to it as I'm sure are all other people who hear their language in a foreign film.

BTW, hilariously, the russian-speaking weapons dealers also had a weird accent. So maybe they were ALL pretending to be Russian lol

Oh, I understand why they did it, and how this version fits into the movie more cleanly. I still think there's a disconnect, especially for devoted fans of 616 Clint.

I think 616 fans may as well hang up the hat, he's almost diametrically opposed to Clint. But as his own character I quite like him. I liked that he's established as someone who likes to sit in high, far-off places and brood over his target, "the hawk in his nest".
Even though he had very few lines, he definitely had character and I'm hoping for a bigger role later.

[Lascoden]

I also have lived three quarters of my life in Canada and don't speak Russian regularly and it's not quite what she sounded like. Her words had no inflection or the wrong inflection-- she didn't know what she was saying.

But yeah overall it was a really minor issue, and I am very used to it as I'm sure are all other people who hear their language in a foreign film.

BTW, hilariously, the russian-speaking weapons dealers also had a weird accent. So maybe they were ALL pretending to be Russian lol

I think 616 fans may as well hang up the hat, he's almost diametrically opposed to Clint. But as his own character I quite like him. I liked that he's established as someone who likes to sit in high, far-off places and brood over his target, "the hawk in his nest".
Even though he had very few lines, he definitely had character and I'm hoping for a bigger role later.

Looking at imdb, the actor was Polish.

[XPac]

I think 616 fans may as well hang up the hat, he's almost diametrically opposed to Clint. But as his own character I quite like him. I liked that he's established as someone who likes to sit in high, far-off places and brood over his target, "the hawk in his nest".
Even though he had very few lines, he definitely had character and I'm hoping for a bigger role later.

I particularly like how they used him as somewhat of a sniper from a distance, pitting off targets and monitoring the flow of the battle. It's sort of a unique role that suits someone of his power/skill set.

I got into arguements with old school Clint fans about Clint being a sniper before... it doesn't necessarily fit with the guy that wants to be on the front lines calling attention to himself. But if it's a change in the character, it's one I personally like.

[Hrist]

Yeah, while I like 616 Clint quite a bit and don't want to see the character drastically retooled, I liked the movie version. And I wouldn't mind seeing Clint adopt that birds-eye-view strategy angle in the comics either. His personality (loud, headstrong, arrogant) has always been a bit at odds with his non-powered arrow shooting gimmick, and that's part of what makes Clint interesting.

[TonyStark1012]

I loved the film and hawkeyes role obviously i wouldve loved to see more from him but i think the scenes he was in were well done...

Same here. I thought the time he had that he made the most of it.

[tg1982]

I particularly like how they used him as somewhat of a sniper from a distance, pitting off targets and monitoring the flow of the battle. It's sort of a unique role that suits someone of his power/skill set.

I got into arguements with old school Clint fans about Clint being a sniper before... it doesn't necessarily fit with the guy that wants to be on the front lines calling attention to himself. But if it's a change in the character, it's one I personally like.

I liked it too, especially when he was giving off locations and told Iron Man about the problems the Chitauri chariots had banking, ofcourse theres the whole picking Chitauri off as well.

[Lady_Alternate]

Looking at imdb, the actor was Polish.

The Russian General guy also played Uncle Stepan in Eastern Promises. He's a go-to for Russian archetypes, but yes, he's Polish.