There is no God in the Marvel Universe?

[The Black Guardian]

Unless it's retconned down the line at some point, it's pretty clear in regards to the story that he was talking to God.

There's a Heaven and Hell, angels and demons, so how can there not be A God and a Devil? Pretty sure the Devil's canon too.

I read the story. It was clear to me that it wasn't necessarily God. God is about the easiest to mimic in the Marvel Universe.

[Comicmofo]

If there was an all powerful Marvel writer's rule book it probably would have leaked by now

What do u mean by this?

[mikekerrIII]

What do u mean by this?

For the most part each writer wings it. They don't even define things like SHIELD consistently much less the theology of the MU

[refrax5]

I wish Jason Aaron (the writer of that issue) would give us his view on this

I have sent him a tweet but I'm still waiting for his reply

Well, Jason Aaron wrote the Ghost Rider series which dealt directly with the Judeo-Christian God. According to Ghost Rider and a bunch of other Marvel Comcs over the years, there is the Biblical version of God that exists in some capacity. You've had Ghost Rider get thanked by God for is assistance in defeating Zadkiel, so I'm just going to go ahead and say yes.

I'm not religious in real life at all, so I'm not arguing this out of any bias, but we've had plenty of evidence and even confirmation of the Judeo-Christian God existing, as well as many other gods.

[Zen-aku]

Ive always felt that the one above all is the omnipotent be all end all and then Christianity is based around a very reclusive sky father

[Probably_not_a_Nurgling]

Ive always felt that the one above all is the omnipotent be all end all and then Christianity is based around a very reclusive sky father

That's apparently exactly the case: the One-Above-All is the Living Tribunal's superior and the supreme abstract being, but there's also "Yahweh," a Skyfather who is apparently less powerful than Korvac. Howard the Duck met Him, and He explicitly referred to stick-in-the-mud beings higher than Him, presumably the Abstracts.

Another character we've never seen is the real Satan; after years of bickering over which of Marvel's Hell-lords is the real thing, a recent issue of Journey into Mystery revealed they're all fakes, with some not even believing the real one exists!

[Comicmofo]

That's apparently exactly the case: the One-Above-All is the Living Tribunal's superior and the supreme abstract being, but there's also "Yahweh," a Skyfather who is apparently less powerful than Korvac. Howard the Duck met Him, and He explicitly referred to stick-in-the-mud beings higher than Him, presumably the Abstracts.

Another character we've never seen is the real Satan; after years of bickering over which of Marvel's Hell-lords is the real thing, a recent issue of Journey into Mystery revealed they're all fakes, with some not even believing the real one exists!

I think the reason they don't mention God or Satan because they don't want any controversy

But from what I understood from ur post is that 'the one above all' is technically marvels God?

[finfangfool]

Nah, it's just an abstract being that hasn't been defined yet. If a writer wants to use it in a Wolverine mini-series he or she could, and they could also create another being/entity that is more powerful than "the one-above-all" (in which case they'd probably better change the name). It's all make-believe. I like the idea of a Kirby god more than some anonymous abstract entity anyway, so I'll go by that. I'd say on the whole Kirby's done more good in the world than just about any of the heads of the major world religions.

[Lady_Alternate]

I think the reason they don't mention God or Satan because they don't want any controversy

Except they do. Go read Journey Into Mystery; there Mephisto has a whole issue (#627) discussing the title of "Satan" and when discussing his day with a bartender and having mentioned The Living Tribunal, this dialogue happens...

Bartender: Is he... God?

Mephisto: Oh, you are just so cute. I could eat you up with a spoon. Maybe later. No, he's not God. He's just the biggest kid in all the playgrounds. And if he knows The Principal, he's not exactly chatty about it.

So there you have it. Inference of a "God" in the Marvel Universe as you seem to be looking for, but nothing really to get bothered about.

[Aziz Abbasi]

Spider-Man and him had a talk

[WinterSoldier76]

Hulk is strongest there is, not God.

Also in the MU there is Hel, Valhalla, Hell, Heaven, the Negative Zone, the Cancerverse, Limbo, Hela, Mephisto, Satan, Son of Satan, Death, The Angel of Death, The Serpant, Thanos, The Void, Ghost Rider's "The Friend aka Jesus", Celestials, Galactus, the Beyonder, the Watcher, Squirrel Girl, Korvac, Odin, The Eternals, Franklin Richards, The Phoenix, etc...Not to mention whoever has ahold of the Cosmic Cube or Infiniy Gems...There really is no difinitive answer to the question. That would be really boring.

[Comicmofo]

Nah, it's just an abstract being that hasn't been defined yet. If a writer wants to use it in a Wolverine mini-series he or she could, and they could also create another being/entity that is more powerful than "the one-above-all" (in which case they'd probably better change the name). It's all make-believe. I like the idea of a Kirby god more than some anonymous abstract entity anyway, so I'll go by that. I'd say on the whole Kirby's done more good in the world than just about any of the heads of the major world religions.

Well the description of 'the one above all' sounds like a reference to 'God' (he created the marvel multiverse)

[XPac]

I think the reason they don't mention God or Satan because they don't want any controversy

But from what I understood from ur post is that 'the one above all' is technically marvels God?

I think they've somewhat referenced God and Satan from time to time.

But I think generally speaking they've stayed clear of making the judeo-christian god and satan actual comic book characters in the marvel universe.

Though I think the recent Ghost Rider comic went there to some degree ... not 100% sure because I didn't actually read it.

Still, other comic boom companies have doe a lot with biblical characters and themes, so it's probably a whole lot less controversial now that it would have been 2 decades or so ago.

[Probably_not_a_Nurgling]

But I think generally speaking they've stayed clear of making the judeo-christian god and satan actual comic book characters in the marvel universe.

Again, the Judeo-Christian God has shown up. Here He is:



He is explicitly not the Supreme Being, just another Skyfather; compare DC, where Judeo-Christian cosmology takes primacy over all others.

[XPac]

Again, the Judeo-Christian God has shown up. Here He is:



He is explicitly not the Supreme Being, just another Skyfather; compare DC, where Judeo-Christian cosmology takes primacy over all others.

Wow, they potrayed the judeo christian god as a guy sitting in a bar?

I'm not the overly sensitive type to this sort of thing, but I'm not sure I'd agree with that. Where did this story take place.