Mr Satan VS Captain America

[Kage Kisaragi]

Not to argue for Cap or anything here but pulling vehicles and breaking concrete is not super-impressive in comparison to Cap, depending on the pull-speed of course and the size.
I mean, normal humans have pulled vehicles is why I say that and breaking concrete.. well... Cap has done that.. with his head.

But beyond that, Mr. Satan should be fine here if you are counting the utterly absurd durability that is given him by his cartoony feats. Not to mention that his speed is definitely pretty impressive as well.

it's not just simply human level versions that Satan does, it's amped up anime versions, jumping out of a helicopter with no parachute and chopping a tower of concrete break blocks is a little above your average karate masters showings.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Probably not he was really only a joke character in DBZ

He was a joke compared to Goku and the villains he fought, he was not a joke compared to normal human fighters who weren't some how students of kame senin or some other super powered martial artist.

[Surtur]

Just curious, do we count Satan's surviving a hit by Cell as legit? Obviously Cell wasn't using anywhere near his full strength since Satan would of been a fine red mist afterwards, but still..he did slap him pretty far away.

[Siriel]

Just curious, do we count Satan's surviving a hit by Cell as legit? Obviously Cell wasn't using anywhere near his full strength since Satan would of been a fine red mist afterwards, but still..he did slap him pretty far away.

It's the only feat we have of his durability.

The fact that it was Cell is irrelevant. The feat is that he got smacked into a mountain hard enough to leave a sizable hole and wasn't all that wrecked by it.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

it's not just simply human level versions that Satan does, it's amped up anime versions, jumping out of a helicopter with no parachute and chopping a tower of concrete break blocks is a little above your average karate masters showings.

Cap has jumped out of a Helicopter without a parachute as well and even cracked the ground when he landed with no effect on him.
Cap has also lifted large chunks of stone and thrown them a far distance and up two stories to hit a couple of gunmen.
He has also broken down a steel door with like three hits while wounded, not using the shield.
And on and on.

Cap is not particularly human himself.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

Just curious, do we count Satan's surviving a hit by Cell as legit? Obviously Cell wasn't using anywhere near his full strength since Satan would of been a fine red mist afterwards, but still..he did slap him pretty far away.

Surviving Cell cannot be counted as legitimate.
However one can easily argue (as Siriel did) that the mountain hit was legitimate since it is his only durability feat.

I think it was merely a cartoon moment and nothing more but since there is no other instance of him getting hit by anything I have always excepted he can survive the trip and impact but ignore the fact that it was Cell because to give him the durability to survive a real hit from Cell is beyond reason.

[Hazard]

Just curious, do we count Satan's surviving a hit by Cell as legit? Obviously Cell wasn't using anywhere near his full strength since Satan would of been a fine red mist afterwards, but still..he did slap him pretty far away.

Depends on what you mean by legitimate. It's outright said that Cell held back to not kill Satan as that would be beneath him IIRC.

However, he still slapped him pretty far away and into a mountain, as has been noted.

So, can he survive a full power hit from Cell? No. Can he survive being smacked several yards away into a mountain? I say yes.

He also took a hit from baseline kid Trunks, who wasn't really holding back as he actually believed the whole 'Strongest Champion' thing.

[1505627]

i recall mr. satan can move fast enough to disappear from sight

[abmccray]

Satan was also really close to some of the blasts in the Buu fight (enough to be somewhat caught in the explosions), etc. At least in the anime, don't remember if that was in the manga.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Cap has jumped out of a Helicopter without a parachute as well and even cracked the ground when he landed with no effect on him.
Cap has also lifted large chunks of stone and thrown them a far distance and up two stories to hit a couple of gunmen.
He has also broken down a steel door with like three hits while wounded, not using the shield.
And on and on.


Cap is not particularly human himself.

That's the point, Cap is Cap because he has the Super Soldier Serum, Mr Satan, is Satan because he trained his ass off supposedly, and just kicked everyone who isn't a friend or enemy of Goku's ass out right. He didn't make up the title of World's Champion, he was given it by beating up all opposers.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Surviving Cell cannot be counted as legitimate.
However one can easily argue (as Siriel did) that the mountain hit was legitimate since it is his only durability feat.

I think it was merely a cartoon moment and nothing more but since there is no other instance of him getting hit by anything I have always excepted he can survive the trip and impact but ignore the fact that it was Cell because to give him the durability to survive a real hit from Cell is beyond reason.

It wasn't his only durability feat, Chibi Trunks repeatedly a similar feat on when they met after Trunks won the Junior Championship, punching him lightly but still with enough force to seend him flying out of the ring and into a brick wall.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

That's the point, Cap is Cap because he has the Super Soldier Serum, Mr Satan, is Satan because he trained his ass off supposedly, and just kicked everyone who isn't a friend or enemy of Goku's ass out right. He didn't make up the title of World's Champion, he was given it by beating up all opposers.

Yep.
Though to be honest I am not sure what this matters here.

It wasn't his only durability feat, Chibi Trunks repeatedly a similar feat on when they met after Trunks won the Junior Championship, punching him lightly but still with enough force to seend him flying out of the ring and into a brick wall.

Ah, that is cool.
I have a hard time remembering what happened to him... Especially in the Manga which I am not too fond of in the first place.
Still, the only thing that shows is being knocked into the wall.

As for the one about the explosions that is hard to say. I mean, he was clearly above the World-Level martial artists but he was nothing at all compared to any of the Z-Fighters. Not even noticeable. I mean, in the Anime (not sure about the Manga) Goku is saying there is a dog as an alternative being to fuse with... Of course that is silly but that is about how much respect they have for him.
Surviving any of them is not something that I am prepared to believe based on the way he is presented.