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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    I would but it wouldn't matter in the end. Besides, guy already posted them.
    sure it would matter. each and one of your posts makes a difference. dont give up man. come on post em. or has it gotten to the point yet where you dont have the feats to prove and are just upgrading peter and dont want to admit that the speedblitzing scenarios were a mistake to mention since they did not happen ? its alright man we all make mistakes.

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    I'm back! Anyway Deadman PIS is always off as was answered earlier, but you, as the OP, can also turn Bloodlust off and CIS on which I assumed since this was a scenario were already enacted here. Bloodlust off would mean that Spidey acts in character and doesn't try to hurt the guy too much (IE: Not kill him) and CIS would mean that a Peter paralyzed with fear or him in grandstanding ass mode would be applicable.

    However, even with these on, I can't see Wolverine winning, it just means that he won't be one-shotted. Also, Pete while scared when the cages closed in, got over it quite quickly so the deer in the headlight mode won't exist in this fight.

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    http://youtu.be/0CO1v7NmhN4
    Here you go. Parker speedblitzes Flash Thompson. Notice how Peter perceives the wings of a fly beating less than one time per second, a spitball hangs in mid-air, he has time to look up and down Flash's arm while it is extended at the end of a punch, and easily dodges every punch thrown at him (even by people charging in from behind)? Logan is not significantly faster than any of those things that Peter can casually step out of the way of. Peter is also much stronger than Logan, so he can grab Logan's arms just like he did to flash and then a) hold him immobile for a pin, b) pin Logan's arms above his head with one hand and beat him unconscious with the other, c) make Logan hit himself about the head with his own adamantium fists. Logan's training, experience, adamantium, muttonchops, cigar, Canadian citizenship, healing factor and body odor combined do absolutely squat to prevent this from happening.

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    Without reading through the whole thread I'm assuming someone pointed out that Sabertooth knocked Logan out cold in the first part of the movie right? A Sabertooth without anything close to the strength feats Parker had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidMoniker View Post
    http://youtu.be/0CO1v7NmhN4
    Here you go. Parker speedblitzes Flash Thompson. Notice how Peter perceives the wings of a fly beating less than one time per second, a spitball hangs in mid-air, he has time to look up and down Flash's arm while it is extended at the end of a punch, and easily dodges every punch thrown at him (even by people charging in from behind)? Logan is not significantly faster than any of those things that Peter can casually step out of the way of. Peter is also much stronger than Logan, so he can grab Logan's arms just like he did to flash and then a) hold him immobile for a pin, b) pin Logan's arms above his head with one hand and beat him unconscious with the other, c) make Logan hit himself about the head with his own adamantium fists. Logan's training, experience, adamantium, muttonchops, cigar, Canadian citizenship, healing factor and body odor combined do absolutely squat to prevent this from happening.
    Yeah theres no way Logan could have avoided those hits or blocked Flash thompson. just not happening. yeah good reflexes and acrobatic skills like i mentioned before. but still theres no speed feats there from parker. any homosapian on this planet thats had some martial arts training could have blocked or dodged all those throws from flash.

    I still appreciate the effort though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadman25 View Post
    Yeah theres no way Logan could have avoided those hits or blocked Flash thompson. just not happening. yeah good reflexes and acrobatic skills like i mentioned before. but still theres no speed feats there from parker. any homosapian on this planet thats had some martial arts training could have blocked or dodged all those throws from flash.

    I still appreciate the effort though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidMoniker View Post
    [B]Notice how Peter perceives the wings of a fly beating less than one time per second, a spitball hangs in mid-air, he has time to look up and down Flash's arm while it is extended at the end of a punch[/B.
    How exactly is all that not a speed related feat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadman25 View Post
    Yeah theres no way Logan could have avoided those hits or blocked Flash thompson. just not happening. yeah good reflexes and acrobatic skills like i mentioned before. but still theres no speed feats there from parker. any homosapian on this planet thats had some martial arts training could have blocked or dodged all those throws from flash.

    I still appreciate the effort though.
    Deadman25 - this is ridiculous. Nobody has said that Logan couldn't defend himself from Flash Thompson. What you did in that post is called a "strawman". That's when you make a statement that is obviously false (and never actually used by your opponents), attribute it to your opponents and then tear it down. Using that against someone is a cheap, stupid, frowned-upon tactic favored by bad newspaper writers who don't have to deal with near-real-time in-print responses.

    The difference is, Peter has feats for sensing spitballs frozen in air, sensing fly-wings beating where to his perspective they were beating less than once per second and then for easily moving through (and kicking the asses of or embarrassing) a world of nearly-paused people - people who were star athletes and therefore had better-than-average reflexes. That is a massive speed-feat set that happened well before the Bonesaw fight.

    And it is roughly 2 orders of magnitude better than anything Movie Logan has.

    Also, the first punch he dodged he sensed blind when it was inches from the back of his head. ZERO real martial artists on the planet could have dodged that. Logan sure as hell couldn't have done so.

    Of course, we've explained this to you one million times so far, and you continue to flog the deceased equine.

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    Deadman25, evidence has been shown that clearly demonstrates Peter Parker as far faster than Logan. Your continued refusal to accept that evidence either shows bias or is general trolling. I'm not sure which, and it's starting to feel like both.

    Seeing as you're only one left in this thread supporting Logan, and you're basically breaking the rules to do so, I think I'll just close this. However, you should consider this official warning regarding this kind of behavior.

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