Hollywood: "The Avengers = $1 BILLION by Sunday"

[Legato]

Me too if anything shouldn't the success of the Avengers actually help TDKR? I mean they do show the trailers for it before the Avengers. It's like running a commercial for a tv show in the middle of the Super Bowl all those people watching are more likely to want to watch that show. So the huge success of the Avengers should really help TDKR if anything.

Agreed. While there are people that want to see TDKR already due to it being Nolan's last Batman film and they want to see how he will close it I also believe maybe more will want to see it if the movie might be as epic as The Avengers

[thenerdal]

Me too if anything shouldn't the success of the Avengers actually help TDKR? I mean they do show the trailers for it before the Avengers. It's like running a commercial for a tv show in the middle of the Super Bowl all those people watching are more likely to want to watch that show. So the huge success of the Avengers should really help TDKR if anything.

I didn't see the dark knight rises trailer before I saw the avengers again. The first time I saw it, I missed the trailers. Heck, I didn't even see the amazing spiderman trailer. :( I was sad.

[Legato]

I didn't see the dark knight rises trailer before I saw the avengers again. The first time I saw it, I missed the trailers. Heck, I didn't even see the amazing spiderman trailer. :( I was sad.

I didn't see the Spider-Man trailer but I have seen The Dark Knight Rises at the theater. If there is any question I have for TDKR is what the hell is Joseph Gordon Levit's role in this? The guy has got just about an equal amount of screen time as Bale, Hardy, and the others involved and the scenes involving him implies he will play a huge part in the movie. Not believing the BS about him being Robin like other Batman fans are hoping

[Superleo]

I didn't see the Spider-Man trailer but I have seen The Dark Knight Rises at the theater. If there is any question I have for TDKR is what the hell is Joseph Gordon Levit's role in this? The guy has got just about an equal amount of screen time as Bale, Hardy, and the others involved and the scenes involving him implies he will play a huge part in the movie. Not believing the BS about him being Robin like other Batman fans are hoping

google: Cracked article dark knight rises and read the article its very interesting.

edit:
found it http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced...l-bruce-wayne/

[Legato]

google: Cracked article dark knight rises and read the article its very interesting.

edit:
found it http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced...l-bruce-wayne/

Eventhough I take whatever they say with a grain of salt I wont deny that the majority of what they say is interesting, and has some degree of truth in it

[Superleo]

Eventhough I take whatever they say with a grain of salt I wont deny that the majority of what they say is interesting, and has some degree of truth in it

yeah same here. i read this a while ago and i liked the theories a lot.

[Legato]

Would it be a hoot if Cracked unintentionally gave away the ending

[GRANT!]

Me too if anything shouldn't the success of the Avengers actually help TDKR? I mean they do show the trailers for it before the Avengers. It's like running a commercial for a tv show in the middle of the Super Bowl all those people watching are more likely to want to watch that show. So the huge success of the Avengers should really help TDKR if anything.

Pretty much. They are not in direct competition with each other. It's weird how people get defensive about this stuff. We are getting a good Avengers movie and a potentially good Batman movie in the same year. We've come a long way since 1997.

[Phil Clark]

Yeah because The Dark Knight really flopped and failed at the box office.

I did say "THIS" summer. And while the Dark Knight was a very good film, it is also hard to watch. Avengers is lighter fair and will be signalling a trend towards more upbeat and re-watchable films without the need for the pseudo-realism that Nolan so successfully brought to the table in his Batman films.

[Alex]

Yeah because The Dark Knight really flopped and failed at the box office.

Avengers was a great movie, don't get me wrong, but I don't think this is any revolution in super hero film making. We are less than a year out from the disappointing returns of Thor, Captain America, Hulk, X-men First Class, Green Lantern, and Ghost Rider II. Avengers beat every single one of their entire runs in its opening weekend. Avengers is very much what is known as a statistical outlier and not so much as a sign of things to come. Its doing so well for a number of reasons: 1) Its basically Iron Man 2.5 and people love Iron Man, 2) its the first big blockbuster of the summer season, 3) its culmination of all the Marvel movies of the last few years. It won't shock me at all if Amazing Spiderman underperforms relative to exectations much like every comic book movie did for the last year until Avengers. Dark Knight Rises will do fine because like Iron Man everyone loves this series.

You know some of those movies you listed actually made a bit of money, right?

Do movies have to make 1 billion to be considered a success now?

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

You know some of those movies you listed actually made a bit of money, right?

Do movies have to make 1 billion to be considered a success now?

It's best to just ignore him at this point. Heck even Ghost Rider 2 made a profit, and that's after the first film was critically panned. Plus that movie was only made for like $60 million according to BoxOfficeMojo. I'm sure Sony was quite happy with its global performance. Domestically, it actually almost made back its production costs.

Besides, Phil Clark is right. Avengers kicked off the blockbuster season on a ridiculously high note. Critical reception is strong. Commercial success is strong. Even if you don't like it, it set the benchmark for the summer. He never said it was a revolution in superhero film-making but it did do a lot of things right. It sold to the audience without losing it's comic book appeal. That's a good thing and encourages other studios to do better.

[Nevets F]

Yeah because The Dark Knight really flopped and failed at the box office.

Avengers was a great movie, don't get me wrong, but I don't think this is any revolution in super hero film making. We are less than a year out from the disappointing returns of Thor, Captain America, Hulk, X-men First Class, Green Lantern, and Ghost Rider II.

X-men First Class, Thor, and Captain America were by no means disappointments. Box office returns, fan reactions, or with critics.

Hulk was 4 years ago.

Green Lantern and Ghost Rider 2 fit your criteria.

[Dreadstar]

Yeah I had to roll my eyes at people worrying that TDKR will bomb due to the success of The Avengers

I have not, not one single time, heard anyone say that the new Batman movie will bomb, and certainly not because of the Avengers.

Sounds very strawman to me.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

I have not, not one single time, heard anyone say that the new Batman movie will bomb, and certainly not because of the Avengers.

Sounds very strawman to me.

Just some really defensive posters making stuff up. The debate has never actually been if the movie will succeed but if it will succeed as well as the Avengers has. At the end of the day, none of that really matters for us. Both movies will be successes for their respective companies and only encourage them to invest more time and energy in their IP.

[Dreadstar]

. . .The debate has never actually been if the movie will succeed but if it will succeed as well as the Avengers has. . .

Exactly. That hardly equates to the aforementioned "bomb." I'm sure there are some people who will wail and gnash teeth when Batman doesn't do as well as the Avengers, and those fringe people might consider it some sort of failure, but even they will have to admit that Batman will have made a huge profit and therefore not be a bomb.

Let's try to keep this from getting into the hyperbolic, folks.