Last edited by MelDyer; 05-12-2012 at 09:55 AM.
"I collect beings like him and cut them open--so I can hold in my hand what makes them tick."
Cassandra on Orion of the New Gods (Wonder Woman #26)
Well, it is a Wonder Woman comic. I'm not sure a Mr. Wonder is needed inside its pages. It isn't as if there aren't a plethora of male heroes with their own titles right now.
I agree that this current run actually reminds me more of Marston's run than any of the previous runs. The quirky/beautiful artwork, the submission themes, the energy and humor...pretty cool!
Nanny: The True Phoenix Egg
"Oh god, that bigot of Azzarello should do his homeworks, right now there's no open warfare in Darfur! Instead of keep shwoing black people killing each other why doesn't he put Ares in places like Colombia or Syria where there's real trouble?"
Azzarello puts Ares in Syria and shows car-bomb.
"Oh god, there's real people getting killed there! This stuff is really happening! Can't Azzarello be a little more respectful and remove these scenes, considering the tragedy these people are living in?"
Now, Rob, I know you weren't one of the guys "complaining" the first time, but I think we are getting silly here. Yes, there's tension and trouble in Syria, this is the kind of stuff that happens there and making a joke about it can be considered bad taste.
But at the same time, at least once a day somebody gets murdered in New York City, should the Punisher book get cancelled for that?
I'm not really a "complainer" much, but I thought I'd throw my 2-cents regarding this issue as it isn't the first time I've seen it referred to. I'm not really insulted by it, but I think if it can be avoided, it should. 99.9999% of us may not be directly affected by the showing of this scene, but there's always that one that might... and it would be very hurtful.
I lost someone once to an early death from a subject that I would rather not really get into here and now, but when I encountered the situations in entertainment mediums and general conversations out on the street it kind of made me feel very sad. I never complained because I realize that things do happen, but that doesn't detract from the fact that I was very hurt by it for a long time until I adjusted to what happened.
It was just a random comment, and of course, you're right... but nevertheless.. I threw it out there.
Thing is, I'm kind of against these sort of reasonings, because, I understand people can get sad about stuff like this, but at the same time, removing one scene over another I find kind of pointless. People die in Syria, remove everything about it. But people die in car crashed too, so no more car crashes in movies. No volcanos, no tornados, no deadly viruses, no earthquakes, no shoot-outs, no nothing.
But it's life. It's stuff that happens. You can't just pretend using a eraser on a page or on a movie clip will make anything better.
I certainly agree that not everything he's drawing here is funny or is meant to be. The cartoonish terrorist is certainly "at odd with he brutality of the scene," but that's often how black humor works. I do find it a little unsettling, especially in a real-life setting; but, then again, I expect to be unsettled by something that is at least partly in the horror genre--so I'm of two minds about it.
Last edited by slvn; 05-12-2012 at 11:07 AM.
I think it's good if comics show real events from time to time. The situation in Syria needs to be known. Using the comics to raise some awareness isnt so bad.
Besides a crime in a fictional country doesnt amount to anything. Using real places, actual places where these things happen makes it that much more real. I dont see how it's in bad taste.
I dont particularly think it's in "bad taste" per se. It's just that from the preview the situation seems to be there just for an OOOHH AHHH cool visual without really pretending to educate anyone on the political aspect of whatever may be going on. If the scene was under a different context, for example, let's say they show Wonder Woman going over there as a plot to try to end a war, it would be viewed differently IMO. But here, it just feels like its a gratuitous scene with no other purpose than to do a cool splash page.
Also there are worse examples than this of rotten timing:
Infamous thrash metal legends: Slayer released an album called God Hates us All on 9/11...
I'm not going to go so far as to call it bad taste--just unsettling. Whether "unsettling" is positive or negative in this case--well, I'm just firmly on both sides of the issue.
Maybe in a future issue Ares will have started a big war in the middle east and WW will stop it. Who knows?