Wonder Woman 9 Preview

[LoneNecromancer]

If it happens once in awhile, that's fine. However, in WW, it's had an ensemble feel to it from the start, and one of the issues I've had with it has been that Diana has felt more a part of a large cast as opposed to the star of the book.

This hasn't been an issue with the first eight issues of Action, so taking one isolated issue of nine and comparing it to the entire run of WW is like comparing apples and rocks ;)

Hm. Skimmed through the run to see what you meant, cos Diana had still very much felt like the star of the book to me. I see in the earlier issues a lot of things are explained to Zola, but that just seems self-explanatory as to why, she's the fish-out-of-water everyman character and so by explaining stuff to her they're explained to the reader.
In the later issues, that changes as more things are told to Diana and Zola gets taken off, but I still don't see the problem. Yes, there are supporting characters. She still has most the screentime and does more things than they do.

[wagthedog]

Yes, I am saying it's fine. It's not an uncommon thing in fiction to take a step back for a while to view things from different perspectives to flesh out the other characters views on something.

As Gaelforce has mentioned, Diana has felt as more as part of a large ensemble versus her being the focus of her own series. So for her to be regulated to the background is not something that we are looking forward to as we only have the one book each month.

[wagthedog]

Hm. Skimmed through the run to see what you meant, cos Diana had still very much felt like the star of the book to me. I see in the earlier issues a lot of things are explained to Zola, but that just seems self-explanatory as to why, she's the fish-out-of-water everyman character and so by explaining stuff to her they're explained to the reader.
In the later issues, that changes as more things are told to Diana and Zola gets taken off, but I still don't see the problem. Yes, there are supporting characters. She still has most the screentime and does more things than they do.

If you skimmed through the run that fast, that tells you the decompression of writing that Azz has been doing.

[slvn]

Is this your argument to say that having your superhero in the background most of the issue is just fine?

In which issues, before this one, is she consigned to the background?

#1--Not here. She makes a late entry but then clearly becomes the hero of the issue, protecting Zola and rescuing Hermes.
#2--Not here either. She brings Hermes and Zola to paradise Island, spars with one of her sisters, leads the Amazons when they are under attack, and confronts Strife. The issue includes a recap of her traditional origin. Whether or not she's heroic enough when facing Strife, she's clearly not in the background
#3--This is the issue that ends with "Call me Wonder Woman." It is is all about her origin. She's obviously in the foreground.
#4-- She shares the foreground with Hera and Hippolyta, and perhaps you would have liked her to heroically defend Paradise Island against Hera. But is she relegated tot he background? No. This issues is largely about Diana's tragically late decision to go back to Paradise Island.
#5--I understand that some people don't like that Lennox gets a spotlight and gets to be the planner, but is Diana in the background? I don't think so. She probably gets more panel time than anyone else.
#6--She confronts Poseidon, protects Zola from the centaurs and destorys the scrying pool of Hera. Not a background role.
#7--Obviously in the foreground.
#8--Obviously in the foreground.

I'm still not sure we can even call her a superhero in her own book yet.

Does she have powers? Yes.
Costume? Yes.
Code name? Yes.
Does she protect the innocent? Yes.
Fight "evil" (e.g., centaurs, hera, fire monster, Hades)?

Which markers of the superhero does she not have?

[SteveGus]

Which markers of the superhero does she not have?

I'm still waiting for her to fight a villain that she can drop a building on, personally.

[WhitOro]

I'm still waiting for her to fight a villain that she can drop a building on, personally.

What does this even mean?

[SteveGus]

What does this even mean?

She should be using her super powers to defeat villains.

[WhitOro]

She should be using her super powers to defeat villains.

Well, she ripped a centaur in half. I presume that's superstrenght, uh?

[LoneNecromancer]

If you skimmed through the run that fast, that tells you the decompression of writing that Azz has been doing.

*rolls eyes*

I wasn't reading the run. I was flicking through the pages to see vaguely how much page time Wonder Woman had.

[slvn]

Spoilerish comments moved to new thread at Gael's suggestion.

[Dr. Hurt]

Write [*spoil] and [*/spoil] at the ends of the text you want to spoiler. Omit the *. I put them there so it wouldnt go into spoiler mode.

[slvn]

Thanks, Dr. Hurt.

[Gaelforce]

I would recommend you start a Wonder Woman 9 Review thread and mark the whole thread as a spoiler to avoid any accidents here :)

[slvn]

I would recommend you start a Wonder Woman 9 Review thread and mark the whole thread as a spoiler to avoid any accidents here :)

Okie doke.

[wagthedog]

In which issues, before this one, is she consigned to the background?

#1--Not here. She makes a late entry but then clearly becomes the hero of the issue, protecting Zola and rescuing Hermes.
#2--Not here either. She brings Hermes and Zola to paradise Island, spars with one of her sisters, leads the Amazons when they are under attack, and confronts Strife. The issue includes a recap of her traditional origin. Whether or not she's heroic enough when facing Strife, she's clearly not in the background
#3--This is the issue that ends with "Call me Wonder Woman." It is is all about her origin. She's obviously in the foreground.
#4-- She shares the foreground with Hera and Hippolyta, and perhaps you would have liked her to heroically defend Paradise Island against Hera. But is she relegated tot he background? No. This issues is largely about Diana's tragically late decision to go back to Paradise Island.
#5--I understand that some people don't like that Lennox gets a spotlight and gets to be the planner, but is Diana in the background? I don't think so. She probably gets more panel time than anyone else.
#6--She confronts Poseidon, protects Zola from the centaurs and destorys the scrying pool of Hera. Not a background role.
#7--Obviously in the foreground.
#8--Obviously in the foreground.




Does she have powers? Yes.
Costume? Yes.
Code name? Yes.
Does she protect the innocent? Yes.
Fight "evil" (e.g., centaurs, hera, fire monster, Hades)?

Which markers of the superhero does she not have?

I think because of your devotion to the Azz Wonder Woman, you sometimes take comments out of context, which I can understand. Sometimes I get caught up in hyperbole. She is the focus, for the most part in her issues, but my sense is that she is regulated to the background at times, especially when characters like Lennox shows up and she swallows HIS plan hook line and sinker. My preference is that she be the proactive one versus relying on others that she just met.

It's just my feeling that the book isn't as focused on Wonder Woman as it should be.

As for her not being a superhero in her own book, I still stand by that statement. The villains she has fought have not been impressive and also not of the costumed variety. I can do without all the greek myth since we had that on the odyssey run only to get more of it in the Azz run. I want my superheros, especially ones with the supposed powers that Diana has to have great slobberknocker brawls and battles with foes that can challenge them power wise. Can't we get any of these type of fights, even once over the first 9 issues?