Will Wolverine continue to be an Avenger now that Cap has burned all bridges?

[tg1982]

Well, for Mariah, there was that part in the first New Avengers story where she opened fire upon a slave camp in the Savage Land being run by what looked like a contingent SHIELD agents while the Avengers were there. It seemed that the camp was fired upon by Hill deliberately to cover up SHIELD's illegal actions in the Savage Land and using the local populace as slave labour, as well as trying to kill the Avengers at the same time. However, it wasn't entirely clear what Hill's motivations truly were (she could have been completely honest with the Avengers). I think it was later revealed that the camp was being run by Skrulls posing as SHIELD agents.

For Hand, she did work with Osborn. And wasn't shy on her expressing that she did feel Osborn was legitimately trying to benefit the US with his actions.

However, they've still got a ways to go before reaching some of the stuff Magneto pulled over the years.

Thank you. As I was genuinely curious, I had taken a long hiatus from comics and only recently got back into them, I started back up just before Fear Itself. So there is alot that I have missed inbetween.

[Zoks]

Ok, some false information is being spread here about the Frenzy/Moon Knight fight. Moon Knight had his hands around her throat. It is obvious if you look at the last panel of the page. She was in full right to defend herself.

[Zen-aku]

Ok, some false information is being spread here about the Frenzy/Moon Knight fight. Moon Knight had his hands around her throat. It is obvious if you look at the last panel of the page. She was in full right to defend herself.

actually if you look closely he didn't actually touch her


also he doesn't have superstregnth and she has invunrbility, so she was in about as much danger as if a toddler did that

[Zoks]

actually if you look closely he didn't actually touch her


also he doesn't have superstregnth and she has invunrbility, so she was in about as much danger as if a toddler did that

Please tell me, which panel are you looking at when you make the claim he doesn't touch her? I know someone else who made the same conclusion because he didn't look carefully at the panel where Frenzy was getting ready to punch him. Look at the panel after the lunge and before the punch. His hands are clearly around her throat. It doesn't matter how effective his attack was, she is still in her right to defend herself. You are acting as if Moon Knight crossed the line to yell at her better. He wanted a physical confrontation, she obliged. Besides, you do not send a mentally unstable person to a volatile situation. These students just watched their friends get the crap beat out of them on live TV. Don't forget, the students do not know what the fighting is about, they just know there is a fight. The teachers were trying to keep the students out of the fight by showing them it was business as usual. Then the Avengers showed up at the school, and the students figured they're next. The X-men were already insulted that they were under supervision, but they conceded the Avengers' right to keep an eye on things by maintaining a 100 yard distance. Falcon readily accepted that because he understood the situation. Moon Knight was against it from the start and was looking for an excuse to escalate matters. The way you blame the mutants for this is ridiculous. You bash the X-boards for their homerism yet you ignore your own.

[mikekerrIII]

Only when it is some thing truly heinous as opposed to some thing that some people merely disagree with

Hand helped coordinate the action that drove the X-men to utopia, she also covered up murders and helped with the kidnapping of a whole newsroom. the list of felonies and major crimes is very damned long

Hill committed mass murder as far back as NA#6 (the slaves she murdered)

[mikekerrIII]

actually if you look closely he didn't actually touch her


also he doesn't have superstregnth and she has invunrbility, so she was in about as much danger as if a toddler did that

It's a still frame, there was no way that he could have stopped fromn touching her even if he cose to, unless he was moving in slow motion.

And the likelihood of doing damage doesn't mater his stupidity gave her every right to pound him into jelly

[Lascoden]

actually if you look closely he didn't actually touch her


also he doesn't have superstregnth and she has invunrbility, so she was in about as much danger as if a toddler did that

He has his hands around her throat right there. Plus, dude's dangerous and has fought above his weightclass.

[Kurolegacy]

He has his hands around her throat right there. Plus, dude's dangerous and has fought above his weightclass.

Just look at that look on her face. She wanted this fight to happen. Had it been any of the other teachers, the look would be either be a look of surprise or anger, she has one of satisfaction. Why does Wolverine allow this woman to be around children again? For one who claims to rather die than go back to the way she used to be, that seems more Acolyte than X-Man.

[Lascoden]

Just look at that look on her face. She wanted this fight to happen. Had it been any of the other teachers, the look would be either be a look of surprise or anger, she has one of satisfaction. Why does Wolverine allow this woman to be around children again?

All's I'm saying is that he did in fact touch. The argument was raised, someone said he didn't, so I provided proof that he did.

[Kurolegacy]

All's I'm saying is that he did in fact touch. The argument was raised, someone said he didn't, so I provided proof that he did.

I know, and while it is true Moonknight touched her first, you can just tell by the look on her face that she wanted this fight to start.

[Lascoden]

I know, and while it is true Moonknight touched her first, you can just tell by the look on her face that she wanted this fight to start.

Her look right before this is of surprise. Plus, it was actually Moon Knight who initiated the argument, everyone else was going back inside. He called her a terrorist, saying that she never answered for her crimes. She threw it back in his face, and then he attacked.

[Zen-aku]

Her look right before this is of surprise. Plus, it was actually Moon Knight who initiated the argument, everyone else was going back inside. He called her a terrorist, saying that she never answered for her crimes. She threw it back in his face, and then he attacked.

No he attacked when she started straight up insulting him

For one who claims to rather die than go back to the way she used to be, that seems more Acolyte than X-Man.

she is one of the many corrupting elements that have destroyed what the X-men once stood for

[Lascoden]

No he attacked when she started straight up insulting him


she is one of the many corrupting elements that have destroyed what the X-men once stood for

Am I gonna have to post the whole page? He said he knew who she was, called her a terrorist, tried to intimidate him. She said she knew who he was, called him crazy, then he attacked. He could have gone back inside, but instead he tried to act tough since she called them out for coming. And, really? Taking in villains is a sign of corruption? Then I guess the Avengers are pretty damned corrupt.

[Zen-aku]

Am I gonna have to post the whole page? He said he knew who she was, called her a terrorist, tried to intimidate him. She said she knew who he was, called him crazy, then he attacked. He could have gone back inside, but instead he tried to act tough since she called them out for coming. And, really? Taking in villains is a sign of corruption? Then I guess the Avengers are pretty damned corrupt.

thing is she already A. had her chance B. hasn't really changed, this event shows that


also she did insult him she called him a lunatic, and a a sadist, she wanted a fight and manipulated him into giving her what she wanted

[Lascoden]

thing is she already A. had her chance B. hasn't really changed, this event shows that


also she did insult him she called him a lunatic, and a a sadist, she wanted a fight and manipulated him into giving her what she wanted

But Moon Knight started it. Instead of leaving, like his teammates, he tried to act tough and intimidate her. She turned it around, and he then attacked her. He started both the verbal and physical fight. And if anyone's a sadist, it's Spector. And she has changed. She showed that in this issue. She's not against the Avengers because she's on Scott's side. She's against the Avengers because she feels that they are putting them on a leash.