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    Quote Originally Posted by OBrianTallent View Post

    With all of DC's talk of diversity when DCnU came about, one of the arms I was most looking forward to was their Sci-Fi branch. Unfortunately, that division has gone mostly ignored. :(
    They're still trying to give us that war book that everyone's clamoring for.

    Honestly it really is shocking that they didn't have a sci-fi/cosmic book released in the second wave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherUnitNo_4 View Post
    DC just needs a cosmic book focused primarily on space adventures and not featuring Green Lanterns. There could be the occasional appearance, but no Lantern of any kind should be a core cast member.
    I don't know. Does Marvel have a "just space" book? I think it'd be better to just have characters who are cosmic based and structure stories around them than to have a "space book". And DC has plenty of characters who fit that bill; The Lanterns, Adam Strange, etc.
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    I think Buried Alien made a good point about the lack of higher concept beings in the DCU as compared to Marvel. You have the Guardians, and Darkseid and the New Gods, but that's about it for characters that show up regularly in the DC Cosmic books. I do think they have a lot of characters/concepts that are just as interesting as the Surfer, Thanos (OK, maybe not Thanos), Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, etc. but they don't seem to push them as much as Marvel. Desaad made another good point, in that DC sort of hands Marvel their behind in the mystical department (even before the New 52 "Dark" line). While I'd like to see more DC cosmic, and more Marvel mystic (though I am loving Satana and Man-Thing in "Thunderbolts"), I'm happy enough with what we do have that I can't complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finfangfool View Post
    I think Buried Alien made a good point about the lack of higher concept beings in the DCU as compared to Marvel. You have the Guardians, and Darkseid and the New Gods, but that's about it for characters that show up regularly in the DC Cosmic books. I do think they have a lot of characters/concepts that are just as interesting as the Surfer, Thanos (OK, maybe not Thanos), Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, etc. but they don't seem to push them as much as Marvel. Desaad made another good point, in that DC sort of hands Marvel their behind in the mystical department (even before the New 52 "Dark" line). While I'd like to see more DC cosmic, and more Marvel mystic (though I am loving Satana and Man-Thing in "Thunderbolts"), I'm happy enough with what we do have that I can't complain.
    Superman and Supergirl have had a lot of outer space alien-related stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    I don't know. Does Marvel have a "just space" book? I think it'd be better to just have characters who are cosmic based and structure stories around them than to have a "space book". And DC has plenty of characters who fit that bill; The Lanterns, Adam Strange, etc.
    Well I'm leaving my discussion on this topic strictly to DC. I know for myself I'd be interested in seeing a book that expands the cosmic mythos, while being separate from Green Lantern and the Guardians. I'm just not that thrilled about the direction that they've taken with the franchise, probably because of the multiple corps and the fact that there are 4 Lantern books. It just feels like Lantern saturation.

    I'd love an Adam Strange book though or maybe an Omega Men book. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about either of the properties but they're established names already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside_85 View Post
    Possibly because it means GL will have to get involved at one point or another, because they are just about everywhere in space...which I lament since I dont really care that much for everything having a mandatory power ring feature.

    L.E.G.I.O.N. or a Omega Men comeback could probably change that a bit, but building up as well as Marvel has will take a long time...and probably not under an extremely GL fond C.C.O. of DC.
    It seems to me DC tried this and failed. Hence the universal reboot and the New 52.

    I never got DC before the reboot because no matter what you were trying to get it was space lore. It needs to stay with Green and Red Lanterns. That way Space lore fans can get their fix and people that want to read Batman...A book about a guy without powers...Can do so without the fear of space aliens forcing Bruce Wayne to make a magic star bullet to kill DarkSeid. *shudder*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    I don't know. Does Marvel have a "just space" book? I think it'd be better to just have characters who are cosmic based and structure stories around them than to have a "space book". And DC has plenty of characters who fit that bill; The Lanterns, Adam Strange, etc.
    Even though Kirby and later Starlin (I know I shouldn't mention those two in the same line) built up a vast cosmic mythos at Marvel, Marvel doesn't really put out stuff besides Avengers/X-men/Spiderman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    Even though Kirby and later Starlin (I know I shouldn't mention those two in the same line) built up a vast cosmic mythos at Marvel, Marvel doesn't really put out stuff besides Avengers/X-men/Spiderman.
    Looks like with the return of Thanos, that Marvel is slowly rebuilding their cosmic titles. Bendis is probably gonna write Guardians of the Galaxy. Nova looks to be getting a book again too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earmites View Post
    it seems to me dc tried this and failed. Hence the universal reboot and the new 52.

    I never got dc before the reboot because no matter what you were trying to get it was space lore. It needs to stay with green and red lanterns. That way space lore fans can get their fix and people that want to read batman...a book about a guy without powers...can do so without the fear of space aliens forcing bruce wayne to make a magic star bullet to kill darkseid. *shudder*

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    Can DC do a great cosmic series without GL or Superman in the storyline? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison4Life View Post
    Can DC do a great cosmic series without GL or Superman in the storyline? I don't think so.
    Oh, I think they could. Getting people to pay attention to it might be the trick there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison4Life View Post
    Can DC do a great cosmic series without GL or Superman in the storyline? I don't think so.






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    Instead of the lower-ebb titles (GI Combat, really?), there should be a comprehensive DC Cosmic book (Giffen? Yes!). Center it around Adam Strange, and give it more balls than the aborted R.E.B.E.L.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie_Solanas View Post
    Instead of the lower-ebb titles (GI Combat, really?), there should be a comprehensive DC Cosmic book (Giffen? Yes!). Center it around Adam Strange, and give it more balls than the aborted R.E.B.E.L.S.
    Hey! Back slowly away from seeming to suggest GI Combat should go away!
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