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    Quote Originally Posted by The Avenging One View Post
    Galactus actually can absorb energy from a sun but he prefers planets. Galactus and Mephisto destroyed a galaxy when they engaged each other in combat and Galactus teleported Rom's galaxy away while weakened. Galaxies are a hair bigger than a single solar system.
    The Phoenix Force is responsible for destroying the universe that existed before the current one, it possess limitless cosmic energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rud View Post
    Wut?, the Pheonix eats stars when its hungry and blows up their solar systems without breaking a sweat in mere moments, Jean did this when she was possessed by it, she opened a wormhole to another galaxy with the phoenix power and just pigged out. What the hell is Galactus supposed to do to that?, hes a mere planet eater.
    THe thing is, I don't think we've ever seen Galactus at his pull potential.

    Many books have implied that this universe will end with the Big G essentially eating all of it. He'll literally consume all existance. Obviously he hasn't done it yet... but my point is that I think he's much higher on the power scale than a lot of his feats and showing imply.

    But we're probably getting a bit off topic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikekerrIII View Post
    The PF was not at full power and Galatians was the one who ran.
    he ran because he wasn't at full power.

    And again you are implying that ther PF forces is less than a primal force and without it the universe would not end,.
    I never implied or said that. You are the one that implied galactus wasn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    THe thing is, I don't think we've ever seen Galactus at his pull potential.

    Many books have implied that this universe will end with the Big G essentially eating all of it. He'll literally consume all existance. Obviously he hasn't done it yet... but my point is that I think he's much higher on the power scale than a lot of his feats and showing imply.
    He is not higher on the power scale, the Phoenix will still exist after Galactus does that when he does it, Phoenix is responsible for the destruction of the previous universe, if it wants to it can cut and regrow any part of the universe or destroy it entirely. The Phoenix Force is the origin of all psionic energy and will exist forever in all realities of the omniverse, and its cosmic energy is limitless, It is simply out of Galactus league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rud View Post
    He is not higher on the power scale, the Phoenix will still exist after Galactus does that when he does it, Phoenix is responsible for the destruction of the previous universe, if it wants to it can cut and regrow any part of the universe or destroy it entirely. The Phoenix Force is the origin of all psionic energy and will exist forever in all realities of the omniverse. It is simply out of Galactus league/
    Honestly, I think their power scale is whatever a specific writer wants it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    he ran because he wasn't at full power.
    Wrong nothing stated he was not at full Power, he had lost his toy but was at full power
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    Confirmed for not knowing how galactus or his feeding works, and it was stated that as usual he was hungry

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    To get back on topic.


    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Steve didn't try knocking Scott on his behind in Childrens Cruasade when he demanded custody of Wanda. Why should Scott do that, when it's simply not necessary? Why it attacking him smarter than trying to talk
    The reason Captain America didn't attack Cyclops in CC is because Cap is a RATIONAL and COMPETENT leader. Something that Cyclops USED to be but in the last few years or so, unfortunately, hasn't been in quite some time.



    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    I've asked that question a dozen times, but you keep dodging it? Why not teleport Hope away and simply try talking to Steve? Why is Scotts way better? Odds are you won't answer my question now like you haven 't the past half dozen times I've asked for the simple reason that deep down you KNOW I'm right. Scotts actions were stupid and unecessary.

    Because they don't have a logical answer for you, or at the least the answer would prove them wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikekerrIII View Post
    Wrong nothing stated he was not at full Power, he had lost his toy but was at full power
    Not sure if this is exactly the fight you're talking about, but in this one at least Galactus clearly states that he's weak and consumed by hunger.
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    *ding Ding*

    TKO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by infiltr8r0618 View Post
    To get back on topic.




    The reason Captain America didn't attack Cyclops in CC is because Cap is a RATIONAL and COMPETENT leader. Something that Cyclops USED to be but in the last few years or so, unfortunately, hasn't been in quite some time.






    Because they don't have a logical answer for you, or at the least the answer would prove them wrong.
    I think Cyclops is taking this personally, and it's effecting his judgement. To a degree I suppose that's understandable since Hope is sort of Cables child, which indirectly sort of makes her a grand daughter. Plus there are probably all sorts of Jean parallels there... which perhaps makes the grand daughter notions a bit weird.

    Be that as it may, I don't think Scott is at the top of his game. Which frankly is why he would be well served to have someone else speak on his behalf (Storm for example).

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    I tend to read forum discussions but rarely post... I’m not sure why so many people say Cyclops could have tried to talk it out. He did try.

    I assume Emma read Cap's mind when she says "he's not leaving without her". Despite this, Cyclops did engage an argument before shooting.

    I imagine if someone acted on no true authority showed up at my house and said "I'm taking your (family member) and I don't care what you say, because you have no say in it". That’s what Cap did, and Emma warned Scott before they talked.

    Cyclops presented his case. Cap became defensive and specifically said in response: "You want to have this discussion? Fine. But it'll have to wait for another day. There's a destructive force headed towards Earth and we have to figure out a way to stop it. You do understand I wasn't asking."

    I know Cyclops fired the 1st shot. But Cap showed up at his home, said he was taking his teammate even though he had absolutely no plan from there, and wasn't giving Cyclops the opportunity to discuss it with him. Childish.

    I'm not saying that Cyclops was completely right. Both men look extremely childish and pretty much backed themselves into a wall by not presenting any clear solutions to the problem at hand to debate upon. But I can see where Cyclops is coming from. If some guy showed up and said I’m taking your sister, and you can’t do anything about it (which is exactly what Cap did), I would probably hit first because I know I’m about to get hit anyway when I say no.

    And boo to the followers on both sides. There are enough intelligent, rational people on both sides it would be in character to say “let’s figure this out in a better way”...namely Storm, Black Panther, Danger, Daredevil, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange. But then we wouldn’t have this slugfest, would we? The whole concept of AvX would have to be rewritten on sturdier grounding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peedi View Post
    I tend to read forum discussions but rarely post... I’m not sure why so many people say Cyclops could have tried to talk it out. He did try.

    I assume Emma read Cap's mind when she says "he's not leaving without her". Despite this, Cyclops did engage an argument before shooting.

    I imagine if someone acting on no true authority showed up at my house and said "I'm taking your (family member) and I don't care what you say, because you have no say in it". That’s what Cap did, and Emma warned Scott before they talked.

    Cyclops presented his case. Cap became defensive and specifically said in response: "You want to have this discussion? Fine. But it'll have to wait for another day. There's a destructive force headed towards Earth and we have to figure out a way to stop it. You do understand I wasn't asking."

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    That was in response to Cyke trying to play the victim card saying "you were never there for mutants" Which is A ton of bs.

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    No more mutants?

    I guess the house of X is next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    ....Implying that the Phenix is superior to glaactus or the celestials.....Wat

    It dosen't

    If Cap is wrong its gonna get to her no mater what. what happens from their is unknown.

    If cyke is wrong, they all die. Period

    Here is another important thing to remember, Bishop went crazy for a fucking reason.

    When it comes to messages from the future every one jumps up to believe cable, but when bishop says she is gonna kill a llot of people an ruin every thing every one acts like he is just crazy
    I think people call Bishop crazy because he's a genocidal maniac.

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